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July 20th, 2013, 08:13 PM
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Hi Everyone!

I was on here a year ago but stopped after I was somewhat overwhelmed with all going on in my life and ttc baby#1 and I needed to take a step back and away from the boards. But I'm back and ready to make some friends with others ttc so we can support each other! (Sorry this post is a little long, but trying to give a little background.)

It will be two years for my hubs and I of ttc come the first week of August. At the beginning of June I had a laparoscopy and a d&c in which they found out I had very bad endomitriosis and wound up removing one ovary and tube it was so bad on them. I was heartbroken when I heard that coming out of the surgery as we had already been ttc for almost two years. We were told the first three months post surgery are our best bet of getting pregnant and if we haven't by 7-8 months I may need to come back for more surgery for the endomitriosis. While we are super hopeful for a pregnancy post-surgery, we are still paying off this surgery and another in under a year scares me with the thought of more hospital bills (we pay all oop as neither the hubs or I have insurance).

In good news, I finnally had an opk read me as positive! This has never happened before and so we were BDing like crazy around my O day, and I was so positive about this month! So now I am here, today, almost to the end of my tww. Since my O day, I was so positive. I kept thinking good thoughts and tried not to see symptoms that weren't really here, but it is hard. Try as I might, I tried not to google symptoms and stalk the forums, but again it was hard. I have noticed things like being more sore than usual, I had a few instances of being dizzy, and had a weird taste in my mouth. I have been drinking a lot more water, had some small twinge like pain/feelings in my belly, and am tired a lot. But to me, because I want to be pregnant so badly, I am finding ways to explain away all these things. I am sore and tired because I am on my feet running around all day. I am dizzy because I get hit and am not drinking enough water, therefore I'm thirsty and do drink lots more water too. The weird taste in my mouth could be from the new water bottle I am using with a filter built into it. Injust found ways to explain away all the thugs that "could" be symptoms.

So I told myself I would not take a hpt early - or too early. I had one left from some previous ttc times and had his it away in the back of a drawer where I knew it was there but didn't see it all the time. I finally broke down and took it late last night (I know, not the morning, but I couldn't wait!) and it was a negative. Of course, this burst my bubble of hope and so here I am this evening. I am excepting AF to show up as usual in 2-4 days now and so another month will begins. The hubs and I have decided to do an IUI next month in hopes of upping our chances, but we will see what happens. Our doctor brought up the choice of using Clomid, but I am not sure if I am ready for that yet. She said right now she doesn't think we "need" to start using it yet, but it is a possibility in the future.

So now, at the end of this long post - if you have gotten this far - what are your thoughts on when to think about starting Clomid? We are waiting for at least this first IUI without it for sure, but also because to start it would involve yet another exam and we are hoping to save the money for now. Any thoughts ladies?

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July 21st, 2013, 08:26 AM
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Hello,

I can't believe you have gone through all of that during your conceiving process....you are so strong.
My husband and I have been trying consistantly for a year and a half now. I just finished my third round of clomid. It has not worked for me, but for most women it does work! I do suggest you give it a try. I hope you have better luck with it than I did.
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July 21st, 2013, 09:41 AM
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Hi ava203!

Yes, it has been quite a bit for us, and most of it (all the big stuff) has been since April. We are trying to just stay positive and think for the future, but sometimes all this medica stuff scares me. How much medicine will I wind up taking overall, how many procedures, etc, but we keep looking to our future and it has kept us going so far. I have heard Clomid doesn't always work, but I'm not sure if I should ask for something different? Is there a better option than Clomid? I really like my doctor and can talk well with her and she listens to my questions, so I plan to ask her st my next appt in a couple weeks, but I like to have some knowledge about what I am talking about before I go in. Have you been doing othr meds besides Clomid? I wish you and your husband all the best in your journey as well! Baby dust to you and all the others ttc!

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July 21st, 2013, 07:40 PM
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I was happened to run upon your story and wanted to share my thoughts.

Clomid is not an expensive or harsh drug. It may make you moody and emotional, but the chance of bad side effects are very low. I say try the Clomid for a few cycles and maybe, you will get a nice surprise. My husband and I just finished an IVF cycle after 4 years of ttc, and I can't tell you how physically and emotionally draining ttc became on us. I was so heartbroken every month and just maybe, Clomid may work quickly for you guys and save you some heartbreak.
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July 21st, 2013, 11:18 PM
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Hi jes81878!

Thanks for the advice. We are still tossing around the idea of Clomid, and still have not made a decision but haven't ruled it out yet either. I trying to do as much "naturally" as possible, but every month when AF shows up we consider more and more medical choices too. These (almost) 2yrs ttc have been very tough on us already and we are trying to be open and look at all of our options. We are definitely moving forward with and IUI next month, so just one step at a time.

Did you have IUIs before going with an IVF? I wish you all the luck wih your IVF cycle and will be sending lots of baby dust your way!

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July 22nd, 2013, 05:40 AM
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No, I've never had an IUD. My infertility problem was only my tubes. I had a tubal 10 years ago with my son, and life happened and I have been remarried now for 8 years to a great man. He has no biological children, but he is so great with my two boys. Anyways, I had a tubal reversal done in 5/09, and it seemed to be very promising. The office had a message board, and I was able to keep in contact with a lot of other patients.....most of whom, seemed to get pregnant within months of their reversal. It was definitely heart breaking, and I felt like a failure. Fast forward, ttc became a chore and major problem in our marriage; sex was no longer fun and spontaneous. Anyways, my husband's insurance covers infertility, and we decided to go for it. My doctor believed that even though my tubes were open and functioning there was still a problem, and we should go straight to IVF. I was skeptical and afraid of IVF because it was really unknown to me, but we went for it. To be honest, it really wasn't bad at all. It worked for us the 1st cycle, and as of now, we are expecting twins, but the doctor gave one a 50% chance of surviving. We have another ultrasound the 31st and will know for certain if both made it.
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July 22nd, 2013, 07:35 AM
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Wow, you have been through a lot as well and I am sending positive thoughts and prayers to you during your pregnancy! It is great you were able to keep in contact with other patients from your doctors office, but I can understand how hard it would be to see them moving forward while you are still ttc. I am so happy to hear that IVF worked for you and your husband! We are not quite to the point of really looking into I f for ourselves yet, but I again have mixed feelings on it. I know it does not work for everyone, but I do love hearing stories like yours of it working! I will be thinking good thoughts for your ultrasound coming up!!! I understand what you mean about ttc becoming like a chore and sex not being spontaneous anymore. We were really hoping after my surgery and all to try naturally on our own for a few months in hopes that it would "just happen" this time around. Well this month we did try on our own with only and opk to help us out, but I just hated feeling so "scheduled" to have sex on what night and it was all so planned. I mean we tried to keep it fun but it was just knowing the pressure this specific week of BDing had made it different. But we keep trying though, and hopefully one day we will get to say it is our time to be parents.

I am going to take a hpt tomorrow morning. Tomorrow will be 14dpo for me and I haven't had any signs of AF. My periods used to be all over the place but since my surgery I have only had one, so I'm not sure if they will be more "normal" now or not. I am just waiting for AF but also hoping she never comes. I have had this weird metallic taste in my mouth for about a week now. I was thinking it is a new water bottle I a started using with a filter built into it , but I stopped using it when the taste started, and haven't since, so now I'm not sure. When I google the symptoms it says and allergy, poisoning, or pregnancy, and I haven't changed what I eat or tried anything new so I'm think no on allergy. I haven't take. Any new meds or nothing to make me think poisoning. I don't want to hope for the last for I worry ill jinx myself somehow. But it could also be some normal explanation. But I am hoping for a positive in the morning. That would solve all my questions! Crossing my fingers...
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July 22nd, 2013, 07:52 AM
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It could be a very good sign, and I pray you get your BFP soon.
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July 22nd, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Mrs. Ceebee,
I just finished my first run of clomid (3 month). The doctor is telling me it didnt work. I now have to see a specialist. But I am not the norm. Clomid is successful in most women. And is way less expensive and less invasive than iui($30 med w/o ins) I've been researching what they normally do if clomid doesn't work. Its also good to do testing just so u know what ur issues are. Me, its low progesterone. I highly suggest u trying clomid first before u do anything major. I've been reading up on alternatives if clomid doesn't work. Trying to prepare myself. Shots with clomid is one option. Femara is another. Clomid is more commonly used because less side effects. Then iui....then ivf.
I hope this has helped u. In my opinion its best to know what's goin on with ur body then ur not just shooting in the dark. Hope this helps! -Good luck!!!!
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July 22nd, 2013, 01:12 PM
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Hi ava203,

i appreciate your input! Both my husband and I have been seeing a fertility doctor for the last year and have had numerous tests done to bring us where we are now. As if now, I am not having any trouble ovulating, but my doctor is considering Clomid more as a help than a necessity (as of now), which is why I am trying to research it since I may or may not take it. As for the IUI, it is not nearly as invasive as other options (eg IVF), but with the numbers my hubs SA have shown on his last test, it is a good option for us. I know not everyone is alike, but an IUI is a good option for us that we will be trying next month. Money is an issue for us as we have no insurance, but that is why we are trying to research (and for me talk to other ladies) about the pros and cons of certain things as they are presented to us. I know trying Clomid would be the cheaper option, but we know we need an IUI so we will start there and spend the extra money on Clomid as we come to it.

I am glad you are researching things for your own personal journey as well. I definitely agree with you that we all need to know our own bodies to make the best decisions for them! we need to be prepared so we can get our families growing and I wish you all the best in your ttc journey! Give me and update as you go, I would love to hear your good news when it comes! Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!

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July 23rd, 2013, 05:48 AM
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So this mornings hpt was a bfn. I still have absolutely no signs of AF, which should have started by now. I could be off a bit with my body adjusting after the surgery, but I was just hoping so much it was something else. Guess I will wait and see when AF decides to show and just start planing for our IUI in August. It seems so far away now, but hopefully time will pass quickly.
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August 3rd, 2013, 11:22 AM
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Hey Ceebee,

I'm sorry about your bfn....no matter how long it takes that never gets any easier. I'm sorry if I offended you. I just know that Clomid is so much cheaper than IUI. I was only trying to help.

So, you start IUI in August? Can you give me some info on that? Cost? Procedure? Success rate?

Since my Clomid round didn't work, I am supposed to go see a specialist soon. Although I've been told by my last doctor that you cannot do any treatments for 3 months after you do a treatment. But I am scheduling an appt on Monday and hope to get in in September. This is just to come up with a plan between my doctor, my husband, and myself. I've been researching what comes next. So any input would be greatly appreciated.

In reference to your question about Clomid. I've heard that those women who don't work on Clomid try Femura. Its essentially the same thing but stronger and usually works for women who don't have success on Clomid.

Good Luck! I would love to know the details of your IUI journey.
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August 3rd, 2013, 10:12 PM
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Hi Ava,

No worries about offending me, you did not and in sorry if it seemed as if I took it that way. We all definitely have our personal trials to go though in our journey and I appreciate all input and help from others to help me know as much as I can to make my own! You are right though, getting a bfn does not get easier, but I just have to keep looking ahead as best I can. I thought the tww until it was time to take a hpt was the longest two weeks ever, but this last couple weeks has seemed even longer if that is possible! I start my OPK's tomorrow to figure out when I will have my IUI (anytime this week once I register an O), and waiting to start testing has seemed to take for-ev-er! I am somewhat worried I am getting my hopes up too much for this IUI, but I just can't help it. I want it to work so badly that I get my hopes up wih ever new "treatment".

As for info on my IUI, I do know that costs can differ based on where you're located at. I know an IUI where I am costs about $500 for the whole procedure (sperm wash & placement), but I know the cost where I used to live was closer to around $1500 per procedure and I'm not sure if that covered all costs even. The procedure is simple. My husband gives a sperm sample and we take it to the hospital within 30 mins to have it washed. Once it is washed (approx 45 mins later), the hospital gives us back the washed sperm to put in my bra or under my arm to keep it warm and to directly to my doctor (specialist) office where the sperm will be placed directly into my uterus and then I wait 20-30 mins at the doctors office with my legs up. After that I believe we just go home and do our tww and test or see if AF shows up. As far as the success rate goes, I was told that if we don't have a success after 4 IUI's, the we should look at changing something (eg adding Clomid if we have not already, choosing to go wih IVF, etc) based on what our previous treatments have been. We can really continue to do more IUI's as we choose though.

I know the boards here have lots of info on IUI's and also there is a ton of information on the Internet. My IUI will be sometime this week coming up, but until then that is all I know about it. I can give you more information after my IUI if you wish, just let me know. Why does your doctor say you have to wait 3 months post-Clomid to start a new treatment? My doctor is thi king of giving me Clomid WITH my IUI in the future as needed, so I cannot imagine needing to wait 3 months for the Clomid to leave your body before trying a new treatment. One cycle perhaps, but 3 months seems long to me. But I am not a doctor and am still starting my own ttc journey so perhaps I don't know enough, but if you have a doctor you trust, I would follow their advice.

I will be thinking good thoughts for you that you are able to get an appt wih your specialist quickly and start a plan in motion. Make sure you are confidant in your new doctor/specialist and that they are working on a plan you and your husband like and agree with. I love my doctor. She is very up front with us and always gets back to me quickly to answer any questions. She makes my husband a part of my appts as much as she does me, and that is big for me as he wants to be involved in the whole process as much as he can.

I hope some of this helps you as well. Let me know if you have any questions and I will answer as best I can, though there are many ladies on these boards with much more information than I and are willing to share and help! I would love to know what your specialist says and what your plan is too, whether it is an IUI or something different. Baby dust to you too!

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August 4th, 2013, 07:12 PM
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Hey Ceebee,

My doctor told me I had to wait 3 months before doing anything more because anything that messes with your hormones can cause cancer with long treatments with no breaks. It also can cause over stimulation of the ovaries as well. That is why she said its usually 3 on then 3 off throughout most fertility treatments. The information on the IUI is very helpful to me. I appreciate you sharing. It doesn't sound as costly or as bad as I had imagined it would be.

I haven't made my appt yet. But I've been going over and over in my head what to expect. Trying not to get my hopes up but I do. I can't help it. I also can't help but feel hopeless at times and think that maybe my husband and I should just adopt. I know we haven't really been doing this as long as most women that have fertility issues. Some women go 5+ years trying and trying. I hones to God do not how they have the strength. Where do you find the strength? Because I feel like I'm losing mine.

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August 4th, 2013, 07:16 PM
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Ava,

How long have you been ttc?
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August 4th, 2013, 07:22 PM
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1 year and 6 month active
Not not trying add another year
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August 5th, 2013, 08:54 PM
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Hey Ava,

Sorry I wound up falling asleep last night and didnt get back on here til tonight. I was going to recommend you get into the TTCMA (ttc with medical assistance) board when you feel like it. They are a little more active of a board and plus if you are thinking of doing an IUI, they are SUPER helpful with info on different options you may research.

In other news, I got a positive on my opk today (early based on my last month, so a little surprising for me) and so that means I will be having my IUI tomorrow (eek!). I am freaking out a little mentally since I was thinking my IUI would be this next weekend at the earliest, but in excited as well, though trying not to be too hopeful either in a way.

From your earlier post, I agree with you that it is hard to stay positive with all we are going through, but all I can say is just keep on trying and being hopeful! I try to follow my own words, but its hard. I am with you with not wanting to get my hopes up too much (because it hurts when they are dashed even a little), but we have to. If we don't, it becomes even harder. Trust me, I know. My hubs and I were about at the same time frame as you when we first went to a specialist, and tomorrow is officially our two year mark. It is a little heartbreaking for me as it is my birthday as well, but it is also marking our first IUI, so I am trying to only think if the good/hopeful things for tomorrow and trying to stay positive! I don't know what I can say to help you keep your strength, but try to! Whatever you pull strength from, just keep pulling! I hope you get a bfp quickly - whether naturally or with help - but just try to take it one month at a time and look forward to your future with a baby in your arms. That is what keeps me moving forward, and while it is hard, I just have to think of my future family that I WILL have. It may take a little while longer still, but I WILL have my family, and then it will be worth it all.

Feel free to PM me anytime. I don't know as much as some others, but I am a good sounding board.
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August 6th, 2013, 08:53 AM
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I Hope everything turn out good for you. I am nervous I may be prego but I have been several times in the last two years but keep miscarrying. If it does not work I may look into other options.
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Hey Ceebee,

Thanks for your words of encouragement. It comes in waves. I'm just trying to keep moving forward.
Whats PM?
How did your IUI go? How long before you know it worked! I'm excited for you. I'm sending happy thoughts ur way.

I will check out the board you talked about. Thanks. I've booked my appt for Sept 25th. I'm anxious and I hate that I have to wait so long....

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August 9th, 2013, 04:39 PM
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Hi ahamilton,

I am sorry for your struggles the last few years wih your mc's. I will be keeping you in my thoughts that if you are preggo you will make it a full and healthy 9 months with this baby!!!

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