[Mommy2Dakota]

Well, my opk was negative today which means yesterdays must have been +.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4744/opk.jpg (todays is back to like CD15)

But as it isn't as strong as-or darker-than the control I reckon it means this is a very poor egg indeed! And I don't know what the Soya has done to my temps but they are a bit strange! I put in some 'test' temps for tomorrow and that and FF even says, depending on my temps, that I O'd CD16 (before the + opk???) and we hadn't B'Ded since CD11 so NO chance there AT ALL. But, it might put yesterday as O day in which case we did B'D but I reckon weak-egg + one bedding means our chance is next to zero

[MamaAnna]

You can't use OPKs to know if it's weak O or not. You may have surged at say 2pm so if you tested at 8am you'd catch a lead in and at 8pm you'd catch it on the way down. Some women expel the hormone very quickly so they don't get as many or as dark OPKs as others. The only way they can relate to O is if you have elevated LH so they don't go negative, or if they never go positive at all.

[BornAgainRenee]

Im gonna agree with Anna here. You had a + OPK I believe, its not weak. And as long as you bd'd you should be fine. Don't count yourself out until af shows.

[Mommy2Dakota]

Urgh, its just that the OPK's do say it HAS to be the same as the control line otehrwise its really a negative!

I did test at 11am and then 4pm. Is there still a chance I missed the darkest surge in that time frame???

My temps seem weird too. I think 'sore boobs' will be a sign that will help me know when i O'd proper (I've been noticing sore boobs start around 3dpo for me)

Me and hub have just ahd a talk too and I am gonna QUIT ttc after this cycle up until I get my fertility clinic referral (I reckon April? I go back gp next month then could take 2mths to get appointment)

[Mommy2Dakota]

Well FF is putting my O as CD16 (even when i added higher temps for tomorrow and that). That would be very bad!!! But how can I ovulate before the + opk? Unless I O'd late CD16 and so CD17 was the tail end of the surge? We B'Ded at like 11 am CD17 so I guess that would still be within the eggs life-frame? Although it is said the sperm need 12hrs just to travel to the egg as well!

If there IS a chance its very slim indeed!

I am just SO close to giving up! I don't believe OR have faith in getting pregs at all anymore. I'm kinda frustrated that you need a PARTNER to get pregs yet I can only do what I can for myself...I can't control my hub. I can't make him give up smoking (a requirement at the fertility clinic. He says he'll just lie but surely they know that? What if they do a blood test on him?) I can't make him 'in the mood' to B'D cos if I go to HIM he usually see's it as me putting pressure on him so I have to wait until HE is in the mood. And if we 'quit' ttc and I don't track my possible O day - well - chances are we will miss it anyways. Because we don't B'D for the 5 or so days at the start of my period he usually gets a burst of wanting it AFTER my period - like days 6-12 - then tails off for the next week (when I am likely to ovulate, 15-19) so yeah...I've just had enough right now.
I think we all are though? What with Stef and Amanda wanting to quit too?

[MamaAnna]

It sounds like you definitely need a break. I hope your DH can see how important this is to you and work towards quitting smoking. That may help in itself.

[Mommy2Dakota]

My chart now puts my O as CD17 (although thats on 'adjusted bbt temps' as my sleep patterns have been whacky and someone put an online adjuster here) Without the adjuster it puts my O day as CD16 which is BEFORE my + opk?

Anyhoo. Even so I reckon its wrong and my O was yesterday (my most common O day is CD19) or maybe even CD18?

I had cramps and pains left side, then right side, felt sick and woke at 2am extremely hot when I have been cold all week (ice and snow here) so I just KNEW my temp must have entered the post-O stage! Managed to get back to sleep 4-6am and took temp.

My boobs are not sore yet (starts 3dpo) so I am gonna base my O date on them too I think!

Should I manually change it on FF I wonder?

EDIT. OMG, well, think my boobs done the hurting thing at work! Maybe FF is right? Though its a slow rise so can't be good.