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October 7th, 2008, 03:57 PM
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For some reason I am in worry mode today. I had bloodwork done last Thursday. I'm sure they would have called if there was anything wrong but I called today just so I could ask about my TSH. My usual nurse was not there and the other one never called me back.
And now I'm starting to worry about my progesterone. I think my RE said something about stopping at week 10 or after week 10, I don't remember. I asked my OB about it last week and told her I had enough until 12 weeks and she said that was when they'd have me stop them...12 weeks. I'm just so nervous that what if my placenta hasn't quite taken over yet? Also I was googling (bad I know) and read about this woman who had two losses around 16 weeks and is pretty sure they are because she stopped her progesterone around 12-14 weeks.
I'm going to try and call my OB maybe Thur or Fri (work tomorrow) and ask if I can get another refill, but I'm not hopeful that she will. I have enough to get me to 12 weeks 3 days.
I've also got some (of a different brand) from my last pregnancy but they expired in April so I don't think that's a good idea.
Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm just so scared that I'll stop taking it and the baby will die because of it.  I think it will be scary no matter when I stop it though. I don't see how I'm going
to stand having 4 weeks between doctor's visits and not knowing if everything is okay.
I know not many on here have experience with this but I thought I'd ask. Angela do you know if 12 weeks is a normal time to stop them?
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October 7th, 2008, 06:22 PM
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(((((HUGS)))))) I wish I knew the right advice to give you. I stopped the progesterone with DD at 11/12 weeks, and everything was fine. I don't know if that helps, but I had DD after 2 miscarriages, and I think if the baby is meant to be in this world, they will. Is there any way you can talk to your doctor about your fears? Maybe get some reassurance that everything will be okay once you stop.
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October 8th, 2008, 12:06 AM
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11-13 weeks is the average time to stop. IF there was going to be a problem...the supplements would not be enough to get you through the mid/later part of pregnancy anyway.  If they are meant to be here...they will be here. You have done ALL you can now its just time to trust the universe's plan for you and bean. (easier said then done)
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October 8th, 2008, 12:20 AM
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From what I understand, stopping around the beginning of the second tri is normal, but if you are really worried talk to your OB and see about transitioning down to a lower dosage or something first and waiting until after 14 weeks or so if it makes you more comfortable.
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October 8th, 2008, 02:30 AM
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 STOP WORRYING!!! Sit back and relax sweetie, youve been through so much to get here. I wish you could just stop worrying for a bit and enjoy your pregnancy!!! Ill do some worrying for you? DEAL?
Add some bacon to your daily schedule today, itll do you some good I think!
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October 8th, 2008, 02:46 AM
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Shan don't take the expired ones, whatever you do! I'm sure they wouldn't let you stop the P if they thought it was a risk to beanie. I know it's so easy for us to say don't worry. And I know it can sometimes make you feel like we're not listening to your concerns, but try to think of it as the worrying and stress is not helping beanie one little bit.
((((((((((Shannon)))))))))))))
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October 8th, 2008, 07:52 AM
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I know it seems like I am always worrying...I just need a place to come and tell someone my fears and this is it. I go for a few days or maybe even a week feeling great and then all of a sudden anxious about something. Last night I let myself have a good cry and then made myself do a little bonding with baby, Michelle/blobby style.
I'll still call my OB tommorow and ask about a refill or just some reassurance that the placenta will have taken over by 12 weeks. I'm already on 100 mg a day, which I think is the lowest dose, so I'll ask about weaning off of it but I don't know if that will work unless I can cut the pills in half.
I've also got acupuncture today so I'll talk to her about the anxiety.
Angela, just out of curiosity (I know, bad!) but what could be wrong that the supplements wouldn't help? Like a problem with baby? Problem with the placenta? I'm sure the progesterone can help you hold onto an unhealthy pregnancy, but I thought hopefully there is not a big chance of something being wrong with baby since we've seen good growth and a heartbeat. Also me taking the progesterone supplements shouldn't interfere with the placenta doing its own thing and churning out progesterone of its own, should it?
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October 8th, 2008, 08:22 AM
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Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you Shannon!  Let us know what your doc says.
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October 8th, 2008, 09:45 AM
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Shannon I understand why you are worried, I would be worried too. It is very hard not to worry sometimes (((HUGS))))
I would think you will be just fine, but I see no reason why taking the suppositories a couple extra weeks would do harm. I hope the doctor gives you a refill to cover a couple more weeks if it helps ease your mind. Or maybe he/she could monitor your prog levels the first couple weeks after. But if your doc is like most docs and just blows you off saying it is unnecessary b/c the placenta is fully formed, I think you will be fine  You have a healthy bean, and a healthy placenta in there, and I really think everything will be fine. Now, my psychic abilities do not extend all the way to labor and delivery, but I think your bean is safe
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October 8th, 2008, 09:55 AM
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Angela, just out of curiosity (I know, bad!) but what could be wrong that the supplements wouldn't help? Like a problem with baby? Problem with the placenta? I'm sure the progesterone can help you hold onto an unhealthy pregnancy, but I thought hopefully there is not a big chance of something being wrong with baby since we've seen good growth and a heartbeat. Also me taking the progesterone supplements shouldn't interfere with the placenta doing its own thing and churning out progesterone of its own, should it?[/b]
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Oh hun you can tell us your worries anytime--we are hear to support you and all the things your worrying about are things we probable all will or have worried about also. So if it helps you relax then you tell us what the worry is and we will do whatever we can to make it better for you. Even if its a shoulder for you to snot/cry on. 
However...
Nope sorry I'm not going to sit here and list ways/causes of things that can go bad and cause m/c or stillbirths, I have to be honest Its knowledge I don't even want to know . THIS is one of the times NOT KNOWING IS BETTER. I hope you understand that...and don't you be getting on google either!!!! I mean it! *major serious face here*
Once you have a heartbeat (  WHICH YOU DO!  ) your chances go down to 5% of m/c. Once you hit 2T (which you WILL  ) and have a heartbeat you go down to 2% (and this stat does include the idiots who are doing crap things). So you take out the idiots you have about 1%. And .98% of that, there is nothing that modern medicine can do to prevent those.... no supplements, no drugs, no surgery...nothing. Mother nature is still one up on us.
Your body knows the difference between real progesterone and artificial progesterone, yes we can fake it out for awhile. But Once you progesterone needs go up (from 20ng/ml to 170ng/ml) we can't give you the artificial amount your body would need because we would cause you (mom) health issues that could cause damage (we can't overdose you-because blobby's don't like that either). So you just get to the point where to give you to much causes more risk to fetus then not giving you extra. (does that make sense?)
So focus on this....
YOU HAVE a wiggly little blobby with a heartbeat who is learning how great of a mom/provider/Protector you already are!
Wanna google something....google nursery decorations, or baby registry items, baby names, cloth diapers etc...that always make people feel better! Heck I do it now just because it make me happier and I'm not even pregnant! LOL
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October 8th, 2008, 10:54 AM
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I was told to take my progesterone suppositories until 10 weeks....I was also worried about stopping them, but I heard from a number of doctors that 10 weeks is standard. My advice is to do exactly what your doctor says....if she says 12 weeks, then that is the best course of action. You could talk to her about your feelings, and maybe she will agree to have you go on progesterone suppositories for a few more weeks. But please don't take the progesterone without your doctor's permission, especially not old ones. I know it's scary, though  I also had to stop my Glumetza and Baby Aspirin at 12 weeks, it is scary knowing that you are no longer on important medication. But I'm putting trust and hope. Here is another
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October 8th, 2008, 06:47 PM
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Thanks ladies.  It really does help to have this place where I can come and get all of this stuff out and kind of talk through it.
I talked to my acupuncturist today and she said 10-12 weeks is a normal time to stop and there's no need to wean off of them. I think I'll call my dr for reassurance and then probably just bite the bullet and stop them. If I keep taking them, they'll still be my "crutch" and I have to give it up sometime. That way I can stop them a little after 12 weeks and I have an appointment at 13w5d so I'll be 2nd trimester and I can go in, hear the heartbeat on doppler and hopefully be feeling good.
I'll just have to trust that my placenta is doing its thing and churning out the progesterone like it should be. Ack! It's hard though. Trusting my body when I feel like it has let me down before. (Although I really don't think my loss before was due to low progesterone, I think the low progesterone was a symptom that something was wrong.)
I thought about renting a doppler but Dh said no because if I couldn't find a heartbeat for some reason I'd be freaking out.
Angela, thanks. I appreciate all of your reply.  "I must not google. I must not google."  Really, ignorance IS bliss. I haven't even pulled "What to expect when you're expecting" off the shelf because I thought there is no point reading the bad stuff in there. I come up with plenty on my own!
I'm going to try and force myself to focus on happy, positive things, like wiggly little blobbies.
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October 8th, 2008, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Angela, just out of curiosity (I know, bad!) but what could be wrong that the supplements wouldn't help? Like a problem with baby? Problem with the placenta? I'm sure the progesterone can help you hold onto an unhealthy pregnancy, but I thought hopefully there is not a big chance of something being wrong with baby since we've seen good growth and a heartbeat. Also me taking the progesterone supplements shouldn't interfere with the placenta doing its own thing and churning out progesterone of its own, should it?[/b]
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Oh hun you can tell us your worries anytime--we are hear to support you and all the things your worrying about are things we probable all will or have worried about also. So if it helps you relax then you tell us what the worry is and we will do whatever we can to make it better for you. Even if its a shoulder for you to snot/cry on. 
However...
Nope sorry I'm not going to sit here and list ways/causes of things that can go bad and cause m/c or stillbirths, I have to be honest Its knowledge I don't even want to know . THIS is one of the times NOT KNOWING IS BETTER. I hope you understand that...and don't you be getting on google either!!!! I mean it! *major serious face here*
Once you have a heartbeat ( WHICH YOU DO! ) your chances go down to 5% of m/c. Once you hit 2T (which you WILL ) and have a heartbeat you go down to 2% (and this stat does include the idiots who are doing crap things). So you take out the idiots you have about 1%. And .98% of that, there is nothing that modern medicine can do to prevent those....no supplements, no drugs, no surgery...nothing. Mother nature is still one up on us.
Your body knows the difference between real progesterone and artificial progesterone, yes we can fake it out for awhile. But Once you progesterone needs go up (from 20ng/ml to 170ng/ml) we can't give you the artificial amount your body would need because we would cause you (mom) health issues that could cause damage (we can't overdose you-because blobby's don't like that either). So you just get to the point where to give you to much causes more risk to fetus then not giving you extra. (does that make sense?)
So focus on this....
YOU HAVE a wiggly little blobby with a heartbeat who is learning how great of a mom/provider/Protector you already are!
Wanna google something....google nursery decorations, or baby registry items, baby names, cloth diapers etc...that always make people feel better! Heck I do it now just because it make me happier and I'm not even pregnant! LOL
{{{{{{{HUGGLES}}}}}}}}}
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Ahhh... this was one of the best posts I ever read. I hope it helped you, Shannon, as much as it helped me! (I'm on the worry train too lately... and really trying not to be).
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October 8th, 2008, 08:15 PM
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ITA w/ Angela, even though I wasn't aware of all the medical facts, etc. But, googling can be freaking scary so google only fun things! I have freaked myself out by googling medical issues.
I'm sure your bean is fine, but I can understand the worrying...I am not in the same situation, but I have worried a lot throughout this pregnancy & way more than w/ Abby!
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October 9th, 2008, 02:43 AM
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Glad it helped!!!
So What good things did you google today?!?!?!?!
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