[Lash]

Hey guys,

sorry in advance for any typos you may find in this post, as well as the fact that this post is written in third person. This actually her DH...i think thats what hubby's are called here. I wanted to thank you guys for the frienship and support you have offered lauren throughout the past few years. she has made friends on this message board that will truely always be specal to her.

I just wanted to let you guys know how her surgery went. we got her home at about 5:30 and she has been resting since we got here. Partly because she is sore and partly because of the anesthesia. I tried to write earlier but the internet froze and i didnt realize the post never came through...or atleast i didnt know how to find it if it did.

Here is what the Doctor explained to me. They did find endometriosis but i did not remember to ask what stage it was in. Probably stage 3 or 4 based on the lack of pain that accompanied it. the process of removing the endometriosis was slightly different than just lazoring it off. The process was a lil bit more like and electric curren which would actuall bake the spots into a dust and they would use a suction tube to remove the burnt particles. the endometriosis has had its effect on obvulation and has also cause here filopian tubes to coil up a bit. the doctor explained that this is not an uncommon thing and that there is no correlation or at least no study which has proven a correlation between a coiled filopian tube and infertility.

As for the pollups in laurens uturis, there were two fairly large pollups on the walls of her uturis as well as severl smaller less noticable pollups. they were able to remove both big pollups as well as all of the smaller pollups which had potential of growing like the other two.

The third thing they were planning on taking care of while inside lauren was the septum at the top of her uturis. At the top of her uturis was this septum (basically a pocket of tissue which were basically dead cells) and due to the pollups on the walls of her uturis this septum is where the eggs were likely to settle and implant. The problem was that this septum did not offer a blood flow that would support the pregnancy which resulted in early miscarriages.

The thing that was unexpected in this surgery was that the doctor discovered that Lauren has an auxilary filopian tube. This extra filopian tube does not connect to the uturis but rather from either one ovary to the other or it was going in and out of the same ovary. It was hard for me to make out from the picture and i had other questions for the doctor than where point a and point b were. the doctor says that this is not a problem that would have been developed do to any form of malnutition but rather something that she would have been born with and would have never been discovered with out actually putting a scope inside here taking a look. This does not cause sever complications in pregnancy other than the fact that this is not something that is very common so they dont have a procedure to just go and eliminate it, as well as that the combanation of this auxilary tube and the endometriosis, the doctors will likely have to continue to assist obvulation.

The Doctor explained that with this complication that we really needed to be producing more eggs each cycle to have better odds of getting an egg to the uturis. Now that we have gone through with the surgery and are repairing the urutis, we will now go through another series of fertility probably with the clomid because her body is still responding well to the clomid so far and if we are still able to get an egg to the uturis the Doctor will likely suggest that we allow him to actuall put a fertilized egg into her uturis.

I dont know the time line really on this...as far as when we will actually begin Ttc again and when we do how many cycles before the doctor suggest the next step but i thought you guys would want to know what we found out today.

Lauren has some pics of what the doctor saw inside her today but until we get them scanned she will not be able to up load it. And those of you who know lauren well you know that she is a researcher and this auxilary filopian tube came unexpected today and she has not had a chance to look it up but she had never heard of it before...so if any of you can find any info on it...post what you find out so she can look at it when she gets up and about

[~Jess~]

Clint, thank you so much for updating us. It's so great that so much was taken care of and discovered today so that you now have a definite course of action to get you two the little darling baby that you deserve!

[Mod-LadyCoconut]

Thanks for the big update Clint! I'm glad she's doing well. I know the doctors were thinking about 6 weeks of waiting before being able to try again... I hope that's still the plan! I just did some quick googling of the auxiliary fallopian tube thing and I can't find anything at all. I wonder if there's another name for it I'm missing. I know Lauren needs her rest but I'm anxious to talk to her!

[~Caroline~]

Thanks for the update Clint! Lauren, I wish you a speedy recovery!

[..Penelope..]

Thanks for the update! I'm glad that the surgery went well, and I hope Lauren feels better soon.

[soImarriedAnerd]

Clint, thanks SO MUCH for the update.....and good job on your first post!
I hope you guys get all your dreams answered soon!

[.Brandi.]

Wow Clint, you're a trooper posting this!!! Thank you! Tell Lauren we are all thinking of her. I'm so glad you guys got things worked out and the Lauren is doing well after her surgery!!! Hope she recovers quickly and more importantly, you guys get your baby quickly!!!

[*kyle*]

Thank you so much for taking the time to update us. The auxillary fallopian tube is not something I've ever heard of. It sounds like it could cause eggs to go down a dead end path rather into the uterus? No wonder you guys have had so much trouble. I am so glad for the two of you that several issues were both identified and taken care of today. Hopefully this is the beginning of a new, happier era for you guys! You deserve it so much. I hope Lauren gets as much rest as she needs and recuperates well.

[Mod-LadyCoconut]

I really wish I could find stuff on this auxilary tube ... it makes me wonder if the chance of an ectopic would go up since the egg would have no where to go but could still possibly be fertilized. And if with ectopics they remove the tube... I wonder why they didn't get rid of this extra one.

[*kyle*]

The way I'm thinking about it... the eggs that go into the auxillary tube probably wouldn't get fertilized, since the sperm come through the uterus but that tube doesn't connect to the uterus. It would be tough for a sperm to get all the way out of one fallopian tube and into the other one. Maybe not impossible though.

I mentioned this to Eric and he said "I wonder why they didn't clamp it or something."

[sara~b]

I can't find anything on the auxiliary fallopian tube either. I'm glad Lauren is doing well though! I can't wait to have her back!

Thank you so much for the update, Clint. Sounds like poor Lauren has one heck of problem uterus! I'm glad that all went well, except for the discovery of the extra tube. I have never heard of that.

Take good care of her, tell her that we love and miss her, and look forward to more updates.

[midnight_starr]

Thanks for updating Clint! I'm glad everything went well!

[**Jenn**]

Thanks for the update Clint! Lauren, I hope you have a speedy recovery!

[LaLaRose3]

Thank you for the update, Clint. I really hope Lauren feels better soon!

[Lash]

This Is Clint again and Lauren is still sleeping...she is very tired and needs her sleep so i am not waking her. what the doctor told me about the auxiliary fallopian tube is that this doesn't cause and medical complication and is nothing that would call for it being pinched closed and there would be no risk of ectopic pregnancy or I am quite confident with our doctor that he would have taken an aggressive approach to it. what i think he was trying to tell me is that it cause confusion with in her body more than anything. I assure you that we will get more information on it when the researcher wakes up from her reating

i appreciate you all trying to help me find stuff on it though...I have been looking all day

[Lash]

This is something i found trying to search for this auxiliary tube. I dont know if this is what she has going on or not...some of you read this and tell me if you think it matches up at all to what i have told you i know so far

A text-book of pathology: for ... - Google Books

[Mod-LadyCoconut]

I'm glad Lauren is getting some rest because I'm sure if she were awake enough to get online our little research queen wouldd be up entirely too long reading up on all of this stuff. It's hard for me to be looking it up because I'm so used to her providing all the good research on seriously like everything. haha. I agree with you that like you said your doctor would have done something if this extra tube were an issue... I was just kind of talking out loud because it seems like (from the way I understand it) it COULD cause problems, and obviously I'm missing something... still needing that lightbulb moment, ya know?

From what I could tell from the link you posted Clint, and I only read the one little section it immediately jumped to - that was talking about like the seperation of uterus, right? I know fundus is the top of your uterus. I'm thinking that wasn't applying to the tube thing... but then again, I may as well be reading german. Sorry I can't be of more help... I was really hoping to find stuff so we could post for Lauren and have it all in one place for her to quickly read... even though you know she'd go off and find better stuff on her own. Just display it with pictures and easy to understand info the way she always does for the rest of us.

(P.S. Ben said to tell you "SHUT UP VAGINA")

[Mod-LadyCoconut]

Could it also be called an Accessory fallopian tube? I'm thinking that's the same thing and I'm finding some info on that. Try googling that.

Try this bit on supernumerary and accessory tubes A Text-book of gynecology - Google Books

[Lash]

hey guys its me!!!! I think Clint just posted for me and then he heard me calling him to get me out of bed so I'm up for a bit. I feel like I've slept all day which I guess I have. I woke up pretty well from the anesthesia but then I've been pretty drowsy after that all day

Not in too much pain but I guess the Vicodin is doing its job pretty well (And making me sleepy)

I didnt actually get to talk to the doctor himself. Well I think he did talk to me, cause he told me he would but that I wouldnt remember anything so he talks to family.

I am NO idea what this extra fallopian tube is about and honestly its freaking me out a little bit. I'm sure there is some medical term for it. From what I gather, the regular tubes are not working totally properly due to stiffening from endo, so the little fingers dont wave like they should and pull the eggs "down the hatch" like they should. He now wants me to ovulate at least 3-4 eggs per cycle and if that doesnt work we go to a higher level like Clint mentioned with inserting either an actual egg for me into the uterus or a fertilized egg at some point

This third tube (actually possible four, they just talked about one side and I dont know if they asked if the same thing was on the other side) is just blowing my mind. I've never ever heard of this and it kinda makes me feel so unprepared. I just kept asking my family what it meant and they had no idea. I dont think its as long as another regular tube

ok let me upload pictures from it so we can get some eyes. Clint gets medical terms backwards especially when they apply to "woman parts" so let me see if the pictures help. They didnt help me one **** bit! I really cannot wait to talk to the doctor because I honestly feel more confused now than I did before