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December 2nd, 2009, 07:07 PM
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Ian, Morgan and Isabella!
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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Um help?
My OB just called me...now mind you I was suppose to have an appt with him on november 18th - its been honestly what, 3 weeks? He called me to make sure that my midwifes have told me the "full story" on having a VBA2C. He asked me if I knew the rupture rates and I said yes for a VBA2C, its not even 3%. He was kinda silent for a minute and I said "look, I started researching after our first meeting together, and this is something I feel really strongly about. Ive had a few years to think my last c-section over and for me, and my family, its just not something we want to endeavor again." Then he goes "Um ok well Im just making sure that your up to date on all the facts and everything about having a VBA2C" then we said our good bys - I hung up the phone and looked at hubby and said "OMG that was my OB who just called, from HIS cellphone, AFTER HOURS - why in the world would he call me, obviously its been 3 weeks since I switched providers, is he that freaking low on c-section customers??" How do I feel about this?? Im confused, and a bit offended that he would call?? WDYT???
~Beth
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December 2nd, 2009, 07:15 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 10,350
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Report him to the med board for harassment. LOSER!
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December 2nd, 2009, 07:18 PM
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Ian, Morgan and Isabella!
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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really??
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December 2nd, 2009, 07:22 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 7,874
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Oh wow!!! He must really be broke to try to get c-sec customers back
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December 2nd, 2009, 08:43 PM
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My brand of heroin.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 12,226
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I am with Sara. You can report this. I am not sure exactly WHERE, but I am sure you can find that info on the net somewhere. One of our girls here may know more... There are also websites on the internets that allow you to post reviews and complaints about doctors. That way, when other women look up this OB, they can find your review and know what they are getting before even having to book an appointment with him.
I cannot believe that doctor would call you after hours to harass you like that. It is unethical IMO and just downright RUDE! I hope you can find some way make this right.
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December 2nd, 2009, 09:10 PM
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Ian, Morgan and Isabella!
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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Thank you for your input!! I will sleep on it, and re-assess in the morning. My mom said he is a caring man (which he really is) and to think of it as hes just human...but I cant grasp WHY he would call after hours, 3 WEEKS LATER.
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December 2nd, 2009, 10:19 PM
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Objection!!!
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 11,769
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Originally Posted by ~*Bethy*~
Thank you for your input!! I will sleep on it, and re-assess in the morning. My mom said he is a caring man (which he really is) and to think of it as hes just human...but I cant grasp WHY he would call after hours, 3 WEEKS LATER.
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I think he was just being caring too. He was probably just thinking about you and making sure you're making the right choice for you. Its one thing to want to do it and be educated about it, but I'm sure he sees people that want to do it and have fantasies about how easy it will be and no risks, with that "it can't happen to me" type attitude.
Three weeks is time to think about it, access your decision and do more research.
Do what is right for you and be educated. Its your choice, your body.
I personally don't think there is anything wrong with his actions, as it sounds like he didn't chastise your decision or anything, just making sure you knew your risks and were okay with your decision.
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December 3rd, 2009, 12:25 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canada
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I agree with Christen actually.
Do what you think is right though
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December 3rd, 2009, 02:42 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Earth
Posts: 6,570
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My OB would call Chris after hours on his phone to make sure I was following my bed rest. I don't know your Ob personally so I can't say to report him or if he is just concerned. Just do what you feel is right.
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December 3rd, 2009, 04:46 AM
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Lilyan's Mommy
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 12,736
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It depends on the relationship you had with your OB, but my initial reaction was he was just concerned and caring. Not all DRs are out to get your money, a lot actually do care about their current and former patients. I would take it as a compliment that he called so concerned on his own time. Now, if it persists, that's another thing. But for now, i would just shrug it off as a concerned doctor.
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December 3rd, 2009, 05:17 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I wouldn't report him. He probably hasn't encountered many women who want a VBA2C, and I think he just wanted to make sure you were making an informed decision. It doesn't sound like he was pressuring you or harassing you in any way. He just sounds like he was being a good doctor... more doctors should be that way I think!
Last edited by *krista*; December 3rd, 2009 at 05:21 AM.
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December 3rd, 2009, 05:18 AM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,116
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I think he was just concerned. Partly for your health, partly for his insurance rates (maybe?) It does not look good for him to have a uterine rupture on his hands.
Anyhow, 3% can be HUGE in the medical world. Especially if the 3% of something (like uterine rupture) can be fatal. If 3% of people were dying from heart attacks from taking a certain medication, there would be lawsuits up the ying yang and the med would probably be pulled. Heck, less then .001% of people get listeriosis, yet we arent supposed to go anywhere near lunch meat.
He doesnt sound like he is being pushy or refusing to give you a vaginal delivery, he just wanted to make sure you were informed. Which is he job to do that.
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December 3rd, 2009, 05:30 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rochester NY
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I wouldn't think to much about him calling from his cell at off hours. OBs keep weird hours. If they are up with a laboring woman, they might catch up on other things. Funnily enough, my OB last got back to me at 8PM on a Sunday evening.
I think he was looking over stuff at the office, and realized that it was a VBA2C, not just a VBAC, and wanted to make sure you were aware of the risks. Sounds like a good guy to me.
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December 3rd, 2009, 05:39 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Barbados
Posts: 18,988
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I agree with Christen. It sounded more like he was being concerned and making sure you thought things true.
I did not get the vibe that he was trying to solicit you as a patient but you would know from the tone of his voice and message.
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December 3rd, 2009, 06:14 AM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern, VA
Posts: 2,627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CandaceDianne
It depends on the relationship you had with your OB, but my initial reaction was he was just concerned and caring. Not all DRs are out to get your money, a lot actually do care about their current and former patients. I would take it as a compliment that he called so concerned on his own time. Now, if it persists, that's another thing. But for now, i would just shrug it off as a concerned doctor.
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I wholeheartedly agree. Maybe you've been on his mind and he's been concerned since your appointment. Last week was Thanksgiving and your appointment was only a week before that so maybe he didn't want to call because of the holiday last week and just thought of it last night. I WISH there were more doctors out there who took the time to call their patients to talk to them about things and see how they're doing. There are many doctors out there who go into medicine because they generally care for people and their patients, not because they want more "customers".
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December 3rd, 2009, 06:24 AM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Southern Germany
Posts: 4,229
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OK, I may have a differing opinion, but I don't think it's harassment at all. Personally, I think it was thoughtful. Of course you are in the right to make your own health care decisions, but I think most doctors wouldn't have even bothered to make a call. As for why its 3 weeks later, I would imagine there was something that just made him realize that you have switched. I've worked in a vet practice for years (I know, different than a med practice) and as a doctor, you won't always realize when a patient switches practices. There are TONS of clients in a day, week, month and its impossible to keep track of them all, all the time. If a patient calls to request medical records for a switch, its often office personnel or a nurse that arranges it, and the doctor knows nothing about it. I don't see how you can count one phone call as harassment. It sounds like he was just concerned and giving you the facts. Like Erin said, 3% can be huge in a medical field. If he was calling you everyday, then maybe. What is it everyone thinks he did wrong? He wasn't threatening, just made one call to make sure you knew the facts. I've gotten calls from my OB during my pregnancy several times out of hours, and sometimes on my or my husband's cell phone.
Hope I didn't offend anyone...
Last edited by **jessie**; December 3rd, 2009 at 06:39 AM.
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December 3rd, 2009, 06:55 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 14,102
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I agree I dont think its harassment at all, but it is weird that he is calling three weeks after your appointment... I hate how some dr's think that there is no way we can be educated on this kind of stuff at all.
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December 3rd, 2009, 07:15 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 6,194
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I think I would be upset. I mean, its a personal choice that you aren't just going to make out of the blue.
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December 3rd, 2009, 07:19 AM
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nakmaster
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Western NY
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I agree with Alice....I think he was just at the office late or trying to kill some time and looking over files. Someone could have pulled your file since you would be due for an appointment in a week & he could have seen that you switched and was concerned. I don't think it was an attempt to scare you or push you into just giving into a repeat c-section. He could just be genuinely concerned.
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December 3rd, 2009, 08:15 AM
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omg I wouldn't report him! It didn't sound like a harassing phone call to me. Shoot, if that is harassment, I should report my parents b/c they are always giving me s*** over stuff! lmao Just forget about it - you already moved on and it sounds like he won't be calling you again. Doctors are people too, and I wish my freakin midwife would have been more proactive with testing me for anemia and pre-e in my lasts week of pregnancy like an OB would have been. I should report her! lol. Not really, we are all human.
Now, if he had called you a name and hung up on you, I would report him. Or prank call him incessantly
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