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March 11th, 2010, 02:13 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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I just got a phone call back from the nurse and she said this cycle he wants to do a natural IUI......  I'm so confused as to why he would recommend this. And im scared and sad to say that maybe its for the money? That is the worst for me because I had LOVED my RE and thought he was very knowledgable, so this really sucks. I dont want someone who is out to get me. But I cant think of a logical reason why he would want me to do one, i've always gotten pregnant on my own! Is there some sort of other benefit that I dont know about....Michelle? (Jacks momma) Shannon? I will be so let down if this guy I thought was so awesome, doesnt really care about me...and just cares about profit.
(Oh and he was out of the office already I spoke with a nurse id never met before, thats why I couldnt just ask him why he wanted to do this)
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Cycle #1-9 - All Natural....5BFN's, 4BFP's (all ended in miscarriage)  Cycle #10-11 - Met with first RE, diagnosed with heterzygeous MTHFR mutation & slightly low SA on all counts. -BFN, Cycle #12 - First IUI+Trigger - BFN, Cycle #13 - BFN Cycle #14-15 - Met with new RE, diagnosed with a blocked right tube that previous RE completely overlooked or didnt care to mention. Soy (120mg) - BFN Cycle #16 - Clomid (100mg) - BFN, Cycle #17 - Clomid (100mg)+Trigger+IUI - BFN Cycle #18 - Acupuncture+Clomid (100mg) - BFN Cycle #19-27 - 2 Soy (160mg) cycles, the rest all natural also 30lbs lost!! - BFN's Cycle #28 - New RE is GREAT! Put on bcp 7/6/11, Lap surgery 8/1/11- Tubal cyst (5cm) found and removed, Uterine Septum removed, and Stage II-III endo removed. Cycle #29 - All Natural - BFN, Cycle #30 - All Natural - BFN, Cycle#31 - All Natural - BFN, DONE TTC FOR NOW
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March 11th, 2010, 02:30 PM
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Hmm, I can see why you would think that. Your DH's analysis was great, right? I know they usually only do iui for male factor infertility, but a lot of doctors also use it as a way to boost your chances with unexplained infertility or other fertility problems. I don't think it necessarily does increase your chance of conception statistically (sorry I can't recall), but it is putting the best sperm right in the uterus, which theoretically should increase your odds.
If money is a factor (like your insurance won't cover it), or you don't want to do it, I would skip the iui this cycle and just ask your RE more about it at your next appt. Perhaps he just really wants to get you pregnant, rather then him just wanting to get more money. Although that could be true too. Huge HUGS girl
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March 11th, 2010, 02:30 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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That sounds very strange...? I'd just wait until you can get hold of him directly, then ask what the benifit of doing that would be. I don't see any if you can get pregnant on your own? Maybe he just wants to be seen to be trying to get you pregnant as quick as possible?
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March 11th, 2010, 02:36 PM
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Mamma to Mia
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I would also hang about and wait till you can talk to your RE face to face.
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March 11th, 2010, 02:42 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Ya talk to him before you jump to any conclusions! I don't know much about all this but perhaps he just wants to give you the best chance possible?? I'm not sure!
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March 11th, 2010, 02:48 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MomToJack
Hmm, I can see why you would think that. Your DH's analysis was great, right? I know they usually only do iui for male factor infertility, but a lot of doctors also use it as a way to boost your chances with unexplained infertility or other fertility problems. I don't think it necessarily does increase your chance of conception statistically (sorry I can't recall), but it is putting the best sperm right in the uterus, which theoretically should increase your odds.
If money is a factor (like your insurance won't cover it), or you don't want to do it, I would skip the iui this cycle and just ask your RE more about it at your next appt. Perhaps he just really wants to get you pregnant, rather then him just wanting to get more money. Although that could be true too. Huge HUGS girl 
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Hmmm...I guess you could be right there. Sperm washing is the only benefit I can think of for me... I totally didnt think of that. And he did say when I met him "I WILL get you pregnant and do it as fast as I can" he also said something like if your goal isnt to get pregnant as soon as possible, then im not the right guy for you. So i guess that could be it. I just never ever expected him to say thats the plan for this month. Im not saying were gonna do it yet, though, thats for sure. I just briefly mentioned it to Jason and he wants to of course. I dont know...I dont even have anyone to talk to about this IRL except Jason (I dont like talking about our fertility issues IRL at all) So I need some opinions... What do you think Michelle? I'll have to call and see if my insurance covers it, if they dont its like in the range of $400-500 right? If they dont cover it we definitely wont do it because its not NECESSARY for us, right now at least. I dont know...im very confused...
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Cycle #1-9 - All Natural....5BFN's, 4BFP's (all ended in miscarriage)  Cycle #10-11 - Met with first RE, diagnosed with heterzygeous MTHFR mutation & slightly low SA on all counts. -BFN, Cycle #12 - First IUI+Trigger - BFN, Cycle #13 - BFN Cycle #14-15 - Met with new RE, diagnosed with a blocked right tube that previous RE completely overlooked or didnt care to mention. Soy (120mg) - BFN Cycle #16 - Clomid (100mg) - BFN, Cycle #17 - Clomid (100mg)+Trigger+IUI - BFN Cycle #18 - Acupuncture+Clomid (100mg) - BFN Cycle #19-27 - 2 Soy (160mg) cycles, the rest all natural also 30lbs lost!! - BFN's Cycle #28 - New RE is GREAT! Put on bcp 7/6/11, Lap surgery 8/1/11- Tubal cyst (5cm) found and removed, Uterine Septum removed, and Stage II-III endo removed. Cycle #29 - All Natural - BFN, Cycle #30 - All Natural - BFN, Cycle#31 - All Natural - BFN, DONE TTC FOR NOW
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March 11th, 2010, 03:20 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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My first thought was this guy is dead serious about getting your preggo ASAP! And ditto the best up front deal!
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March 11th, 2010, 03:23 PM
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I would ask him if there is a benefit besides knowing when you O for sure (you would probably be monitored closely) and getting the sperm into your uterus without half of them dying first. It might be worth a try if you really want to be pregnant for December. Not saying you wouldn't get that way on your own but it could boost your chances and you could still try naturally before and after the IUI to boost the sperm count trying to get to the eggie!
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March 11th, 2010, 03:29 PM
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If it were me, I would most likely wait at least one more cycle*. This is your first cycle of trying with the new meds, and it may just take a couple of cycles to get pregnant like it does for a lot of people. Plus, once you start the med assistance, those BFNs will hurt worse. But if you are aware that even failed cycles are to be expected with iui, you don't mind the money factor, and you are gung ho to jump right in and get all jiggy with a catheter (which it sounds like you aren't), then go for it.
But I do think that trying to remain as relaxed about ttc as possible is best. I mean, you either get pregnant and you can then say "just relaxing" works (haha!), or you don't get pregnant but still saved yourself from unnecessary stress. I know that is WAY easier said then done, that anyone would be stressed in your situation (so so true), and that I was like the queen of second guessing and stress while I was ttc, but it is a nice goal to have. It helps with decisions like this in which you know you cannot really control anything, but want to at least make sure that you are making good decisions and putting your faith in a Dr who is also making the right decisions FOR YOU. I am sure you are already trying to stay fairly relaxed, and I think you are doing a good job! But I wanted to mention I do think it played a part in me eventually getting pregnant.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, if you trust your RE and he says he wants to get you pregnant fast, then maybe going to IUI now will get you pregnant FAST and that would be very nice! I would just advice that you try to be somewhat prepared for the emotional hit that ttc with med assistance could bring should 1 iui cycle turn into 2 or 3. I mean, eventually you WILL get pregnant. You HAVE to believe that. I think it is so important. If you decide to believe this no matter what, then just try to go with your gut, your DH's gut (sometimes they can really be good at calling things ), and try to roll with the punches the rest of the time.
So that was a lot of opinion there  I think if you can get in to talk to your RE you would feel a lot better about where you are going. If you do the iui this cycle, just bring up all your questions at this month's appt, being sure to ask him how he sees your treatment going if the natural iui fails, etc etc. I always found that talking to my RE in person helped me know what to do. And if you do iui this cycle, you could still go back to au natural the one after that if you don't end up pregnant. Sooo, maybe think it over a few days and then go with your gut
*I should note that the person I am today would wait, but back when I was ttc I would probably go for the iui. But I am a freak - I like the cooter cam, remember? Maybe talking with Jason more will also help you decide.
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March 11th, 2010, 03:29 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Ok now I am going to give you my opinion but keep in mind I really don't know much about this.
I would not do it. I mean you have never had a problem getting pregnant so why not try on your own first. Definitely ask him why first though. ((HUGS))
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March 11th, 2010, 03:41 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Michelle gave some really great advice!
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March 11th, 2010, 04:02 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Since I don't know much about the subject I can't offer any advice but Michelle's responses sound good to me. You could also try to get in contact with him to see what his reason is for going this route.
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March 11th, 2010, 05:03 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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So what meds are you taking now? Just the aspirin or something else? Does he think the only reason you haven't had a sticky BFP is the heterozygous MTFR mutation? I ask b/c I think I read that quite a lot of people have that. But maybe it is one of those things where some people have it and it doesn't cause a problem, but then for other people it does.
It sounds like maybe he just wants to pull out all the stops to get you pregnant ASAP. But I think like the other said that you should talk to him about why he thinks is your best course of action before you go this route.
I agree with a lot of what Michelle said about TTCMA causing stress and maybe you will feel more stressed if you have to go to IUI right now? But then again maybe you'd feel better knowing you are doing everything you can?
I didn't do IUI so all my opinions are just based on what I've heard from others or about med assistance in general.
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March 11th, 2010, 06:25 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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I've never been in your place and don't know what it's like but.. I think if it was me I would try a couple more cycles before going with IUI. You've never had a problem getting pregnant so I'm sure you won't this time around either. I would hate to spend the money and then have it fail or spend the money when you would have gotten pregnant on your own without the extra help. I'm sure he wants to get you pregnant right away like he said but it's also money in his pocket! Remember a lot of docs want to do a lot of unnesscary medical stuff because they are docs and think that way.
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March 11th, 2010, 10:01 PM
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I think I would also try a couple of more cycles before IUI since you and Jason haven't shown a problem getting pregnant. Just my
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March 12th, 2010, 02:29 AM
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I agree, I'd wait a few more cycles. We know you can get pregnant easily enough
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March 12th, 2010, 05:00 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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well i think that since you know you can get pregnant easily enough, maybe the guy is just using the tools he has at his disposal to try to make that happen as fast as possible. but i think using an instead cup (for like $5) after dtd and leaving it in for like 8-10 hrs might sort of accomplish the same thing he is trying to do, and save you hundreds of dollars. he's probably just doing what he knows.
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March 12th, 2010, 05:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MomToJack
Hmm, I can see why you would think that. Your DH's analysis was great, right? I know they usually only do iui for male factor infertility, but a lot of doctors also use it as a way to boost your chances with unexplained infertility or other fertility problems. I don't think it necessarily does increase your chance of conception statistically (sorry I can't recall), but it is putting the best sperm right in the uterus, which theoretically should increase your odds.
If money is a factor (like your insurance won't cover it), or you don't want to do it, I would skip the iui this cycle and just ask your RE more about it at your next appt. Perhaps he just really wants to get you pregnant, rather then him just wanting to get more money. Although that could be true too. Huge HUGS girl 
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I agree! I think you should hold off on an IUI this cycle. This will be your third cycle after being diagnosed. That is strange they would just offer an IUI so quickly?
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March 12th, 2010, 06:43 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Thanks girls. In my mind I was never really considering it, I just wanted to get some opinions as to why he would want to do this!?! There is no need for it, for us. Jason wants to do it, but as much as I explain all this stuff to him, he never really fully understands what does what I dont think. he just thinks its a better shot all around for us, and doesnt understand that that procedure is mainly really getting the sperm directly to the egg...and we have no issue with that.
Thank you so much for your long reply Michelle. I even let Jason read it!
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Cycle #1-9 - All Natural....5BFN's, 4BFP's (all ended in miscarriage)  Cycle #10-11 - Met with first RE, diagnosed with heterzygeous MTHFR mutation & slightly low SA on all counts. -BFN, Cycle #12 - First IUI+Trigger - BFN, Cycle #13 - BFN Cycle #14-15 - Met with new RE, diagnosed with a blocked right tube that previous RE completely overlooked or didnt care to mention. Soy (120mg) - BFN Cycle #16 - Clomid (100mg) - BFN, Cycle #17 - Clomid (100mg)+Trigger+IUI - BFN Cycle #18 - Acupuncture+Clomid (100mg) - BFN Cycle #19-27 - 2 Soy (160mg) cycles, the rest all natural also 30lbs lost!! - BFN's Cycle #28 - New RE is GREAT! Put on bcp 7/6/11, Lap surgery 8/1/11- Tubal cyst (5cm) found and removed, Uterine Septum removed, and Stage II-III endo removed. Cycle #29 - All Natural - BFN, Cycle #30 - All Natural - BFN, Cycle#31 - All Natural - BFN, DONE TTC FOR NOW
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March 12th, 2010, 06:47 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Stock up on insteads. Also ride him backwards and stay on top for a bit afterwards. I swear, looking back thats how I got prego.
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