[♥Ashley♥]

My RE just called final verdict - the old RE lied or didnt know what he was talking about when he told me it spilled on the right side. The new RE got all of the films and none show spillage on the right side. She said my right tube is completely kinked up and blocked (this is where I was confused in the beginning, its blocked not because it scaring but because of being kinked up). She still believes that one of my losses was in my tube, because she said it also doesnt look completely clear. She said "youve heard of getting your tubes tied right?" of course i have... then she said "its pretty much like your right tube is "tied" so thats that. I only have one fully functioning tube.

The next step is Clomid CD5-9 and I have to use OPK's once I get a + OPK we go in for the IUI but do an ultrasound first, if im not O'ing from my left side then the IUI is cancelled. We will do this until we do the IUI 3-4 more times (she'll give clomid a couple cycles and thinks she'll want to do injectables a couple cycles if clomid doesnt work) and if that doesnt work we will do IVF. And THAT was a compromise with her...she wanted us to do IVF because its the best option in our situation. She believes that gives us the best chances, and cuts out all the wait time (we can only do IUI on a cycle I O from the left...I could go months without O'ing from the left ). Im sad and scared. I really hope I o'd from the left this cycle and that I end up pregnant so we dont have to go through all of this. This is devastating to me. I cant believe to add to the past 20 months...we also have to add wasted months where we cant even do anything.....

[LaLaRose3]

Ashley, I am so sorry honey. I know that it isn't the best news, but try to keep your pretty head up! It WILL HAPPEN for you! I am hoping and praying for a BFP this cycle for you!

*HUGS*

[ShannonMVT]

Oh Ashley I am so sorry. What crummy news. I guess maybe this is why you were getting pregnant before but you aren't now? Maybe you've been Oing from your right side lately? On your previous IUIS, do you know if you were Oing on your right or left?
What about doing Clomid earlier, like CD 3-7? I have heard that doing it earlier gives you more follicles, while doing it later gives you one big nice follie. I got one follie doing it 5-9 but of course I know others who got two. If you can't O on your left side with the Clomid, I bet the injectibles will give you several follicles for a better chance of getting pregnant. And of course they will follow you closely with all that. IVF as a last resort, I KNOW that must be scary to think of having to go that route. But just take it one step at a time. Maybe you'll get lucky and get it with just the Clomid.
The silver lining is that it realy sounds like your RE is on top of everything. I just know you are going to get pregnant with a sticky baby and you are going to make such a great mommy. I really really hope it is soon for you.
Oh and one more question for you...do you feel it when you O? Can you tell which side you O on? Your chart looks really good so far, I am pulling for the soy to work its magic so you don't need any of this!

[♥Ashley♥]

Thanks Lauren

Originally Posted by ShannonMVT

Oh Ashley I am so sorry. What crummy news. I guess maybe this is why you were getting pregnant before but you aren't now? Maybe you've been Oing from your right side lately? On your previous IUIS, do you know if you were Oing on your right or left?
What about doing Clomid earlier, like CD 3-7? I have heard that doing it earlier gives you more follicles, while doing it later gives you one big nice follie. I got one follie doing it 5-9 but of course I know others who got two. If you can't O on your left side with the Clomid, I bet the injectibles will give you several follicles for a better chance of getting pregnant. And of course they will follow you closely with all that. IVF as a last resort, I KNOW that must be scary to think of having to go that route. But just take it one step at a time. Maybe you'll get lucky and get it with just the Clomid.
The silver lining is that it realy sounds like your RE is on top of everything. I just know you are going to get pregnant with a sticky baby and you are going to make such a great mommy. I really really hope it is soon for you.
Oh and one more question for you...do you feel it when you O? Can you tell which side you O on? Your chart looks really good so far, I am pulling for the soy to work its magic so you don't need any of this!

I love you Shannon Seriously im on the verge of tears right now so anything was about to make me bust, but your always SO good at laying it all out for me and making me stop seeing only the bad.

Yep, she thinks that all but maybe one of the pregnancies were from O'ing on the left side (all speculation of course because I wasnt under her care then, but she says its the best explanation) and that i've been O'ing from my right side lately. On my last IUI I O'd on my right side And honestly, ive gone back through all of my charts with my last RE and all were on the left side but one, and that month we didnt do much dtd and we didnt do an IUI that month.

I was wanting to do CD3-7 too for that same reason, MORE follies...so I think I will talk to her about that before starting. I would rather have more and a better chance of at least 1 being on the left side. And yes, I do feel it when I o every single month...this month was confusing, I felt really strong left sided O pains for a few days, then I had the pains on the right side the day before I actually O'd so I have no clue! Im hoping and praying that I O'd from the left side SOOOOO badly! Come on Soy, please work your magic!

[Oriyan]

*hugs*

I can't believe your RE did not know wth he was talking about.

Sounds like you've gotten your new RE on top of everything which is good.

If you have any IVF questions, let me know.

[LadyGamer]

My heart breaks for you, but I'm so glad you now have a doctor that can actually HELP you. Knowing what is actually going on and having someone to help is the best resource you have. It WILL happen one way or another, so try and relax knowing that she will get you there. I'm sorry its such a long, hard, bumpy road though I can't relate to your pain at all, but I'm glad we can all be here to support and love you while you go through this. With the love of your baby, it will all be worth it in the end. Bitter makes sugar that much sweeter.

[.Brandi.]

I personally think your old RE was a total douche bag!!! I personally think he lied to you! I'm so sorry that you have to face this!!! This is horrible for you right now! I don't know if this will help, but knowing is half the battle! You know what is wrong and what your options are. I still can't believe your old RE!!! Ashley, I'm so sorry!

[Resi]

hugs.. I'm glad your new doc is so on top of things.

[soImarriedAnerd]

I'm so glad you have a new RE and it sounds like she is really on top of things!
Sending you some Left O action dust

[ANGWife]

Ok so stupid me is confused.

I thought a woman alternates sides each month with releasing eggs. Am I wrong? And if you ovulate from your left side, does that mean you can have a successful pregnancy? How does that explain repeat miscarriages?


And a big middle finger to that old RE!

[Mod-LadyCoconut]

Hearing all of that is certainly a tough pill to swallow. I hate that you wasted so much time, hope, and money with your old RE. That is just total crap. Thankfully your new RE really seems on the ball and willing to do whatever it takes to get you your baby! I really hope you O'd on your left side this cycle and you don't have to do any more waiting!

[~*Bethy*~]

sending lots of Left side O'ing dust!!! I have nothing to add but wanted to give support!!

[ShannonMVT]

Originally Posted by ANGWife

Ok so stupid me is confused.

I thought a woman alternates sides each month with releasing eggs. Am I wrong? And if you ovulate from your left side, does that mean you can have a successful pregnancy? How does that explain repeat miscarriages?


And a big middle finger to that old RE!

I dont think you always alternate, you may O several months in a row from one side and then go to the other.

[♥Ashley♥]

Originally Posted by .Brandi.

I personally think your old RE was a total douche bag!!! I personally think he lied to you! I'm so sorry that you have to face this!!! This is horrible for you right now! I don't know if this will help, but knowing is half the battle! You know what is wrong and what your options are. I still can't believe your old RE!!! Ashley, I'm so sorry!

This is exactly what Jason and I have been thinking ever since we left him, and now hearing this news...im even more convinced. This is the guy who told me that Jason had NO moving sperm based on a post coital test that was done OUTSIDE of the limits it should have been done, not to mention its a stone age type test. Barely any RE's do it anymore because its so unreliable. I think he stretched the truth on a lot of things with us to get our money, I really really do.

Originally Posted by ANGWife

Ok so stupid me is confused.

I thought a woman alternates sides each month with releasing eggs. Am I wrong? And if you ovulate from your left side, does that mean you can have a successful pregnancy? How does that explain repeat miscarriages?


And a big middle finger to that old RE!

Not necessarily! I have my charts and I O'd from my right side three months in a row, then my left side once...then my right again, then i left that dr so thats the only documented occurances I have. But obviously the majority was from my right side. Yes, if i ovulate from the left side the egg can make it to where it needs to be so if it got fertilized that would work, but if I ovulated from the right side it would either get stuck and not do anything...or it can get stuck and fertilized still and not be able to make it down to the uterus where it needs to be and that would be an ectopic. This isnt an explanation for the recurrent losses, its just something my new Dr found was going on. And possibly a reason why I used to get pregnant so easily and now not so much.

[Oriyan]

I usually only O from my left side. My right side will give off some O pains, but in the end it is always the left that O's. My left ovary was also the side that produced the most eggs for IVF. Your body does not alternate every month its basically what ever follicle is the strongest, wins.

[~*sierra*~]

i'm so sorry sweetie
i am glad you have a doc on your side now though,and one who seems to know what they are talking about. you WILL get pregnant!!

[*krista*]

I'm glad you got a new doctor, she sounds like she really knows what she is talking about. I'm sorry the other doc wasted your time, but you are in good care now!

Is the tube tie fixable?

[alicenwonderland]

I'm so sorry Ashley.
That explains a lot though. I'm so glad you left your RE. This new doc sounds like they will get you pregnant. *Hugs* i support your choice, whatever you pick. My left tube had spill on HSG, but barely. It was kinked in half. I truly think that's why it took so long to concieve. I almost always o on that left side.

[♥Ashley♥]

Thanks alot everyone.

Originally Posted by *krista*

I'm glad you got a new doctor, she sounds like she really knows what she is talking about. I'm sorry the other doc wasted your time, but you are in good care now!

Is the tube tie fixable?

I seriously asked her about a lap like 3 times (the surgery they normally do to remove scarring or blockage). At first I said "isnt there a procedure to correct that?" and she said no there is no procedure. Then i got mad because I knew of the lap procedure and said once again "there is no procedure to clear it out? because I have some friends (talking about some girls here on JM who are ttc and have had it done) who have had a procedure done to clear out their tubes" and she was like "yea, that is for clearing out blockages and scaring...thats not really the issue here the issue is the knotting and kinking in your tubes" so whatever. im pissed. I feel like there is something that would help, but she says its almost impossible to un-kink a tube and there isnt a surgery to even do it. Ugh. I feel like it would help, but what do i know, right?

[**Jenn**]

Wow, I am so angry for you Ashley! Your old RE basically preys on vulnerable couples who will go through anything to achieve their dreams of having a baby and he outright lies to get money from you with little chance of success. Thats stealing in my book! He'll get his someday, karma is a b i t c h!

I'm so glad you're away from him and didn't waste more time and money with that quack! Your new RE sounds like shes got a good game plan for you and WILL get you pregnant and WILL keep you that way!

Of course I hope the soy does the trick and you O on your left side so you don't need to go through any of that! I was going to ask the same thing about the clomid if theres a possibility of taking it CD3-7 to get more follies? Keeping you in my prayers still through all this hun!