[Oriyan]

So we have a routine with J.J. After dinner if he is not rubbing his eyes, he plays for a little bit (usually no later then 7:45pm) otherwise its straight to the bath tub for 15 minutes (he loves the bath). After a bath, we get into PJ's (lights are already dim), he gets a bottle (in the dark) and then the bed time night mare starts. We do a bath every night since he has day care germs on him, plus it keeps the routine the same for him and cues him for bed.

We can't just put him in his crib awake -- he will cry until he vomits.

Some nights, he will fall asleep while drinking his bottle and we can put him in his crib and he is fine but he will wake frequently during the night (which he sometimes does because he can't find his paci other times its because we are not there).
Other nights, he won't take a bottle or if he does, he is just wired afterwords and ready to play. We try and just sit in the dark with him but he will start to get upset and squirm and pinch us. We'll put him in his crib and he will scream. We will sing to him and keep laying him down and rub him but it does nothing, so we leave the room and he screams bloody murder and then he gets himself so worked up he is tired and will lay down and fall asleep ONLY when we come back in the room and sit with him. He can NOT put himself to sleep.

Usually for naps, he is napping in the car, or in his stroller at home. Some times he will nap with daddy on the couch. At day care, he probably naps in the stroller at least 50% of the time. Very rarely (only when he is up a lot at night) we bring him into bed with us, and he sleeps just fine. (This is not an ideal option as there are too many animals in the bed too)

This is killing us. Some nights its easy 5 minutes and he is down and out till 5am. Other nights it can take over an hour to get him to sleep and then he is up every 90 minutes crying until we come back in and lay him down (not to mention at least 3-4 night terrors per week between 11-1am). We've tried pushing his bed time back, following his cues, it does not work. He would play all night.

Help! We've tried the No cry sleep solution -- it did not work for J.J. We've tried CIO, does not work. He would cry till he vomited. We try following his cues -- does not work.

[Mjp121212]

I am no help at all! Brady is 5 and still doesn't go to sleep on his own. and I've done everything you posted. Now he will go to bed but I have to sit with him.

[IamMom]

I'm no help either cause the only thing that worked for me with both kids was CIO...and it went so easy - they gave in quickly...they know whose boss HA!~ I feel for you Sam...I hope you find something that works soon...nothing like everyone getting a good night sleep!

[~*sierra*~]

maybe could you make the animals a bed somewhere else? i mean if jj sleeps well in the bed with you, it might be worth moving the pets so everyone can get a better nights sleep? We had to move Chile out of our bed because she is a restless sleeper and kept waking us up, she's super happy to sleep beside our bed now on the floor (but she also cant' jump onto the bed). But maybe in the living room or soemthing might work? I put lots of comfy blankets in a pile and she loves it.

[Nami]

We have always had sleeping problems with Chris, since day one and still do. The only way I been able to get him to fall asleep is laying in bed with him while I act like I'm sleeping(Sometimes I actually do fall asleep though) until he wears out and falls asleep. He still wakes many times a night crying but with him in our bed he'll end up falling back asleep after a while.

Have you tried taking a side off the crib and having it sandwiched between the wall and your bed(I hope you understand, I'm not good at explaining)? That way JJ can still be in his crib but you're able to comfort him easy and it's almost like being in bed with you. We did this with Chris' crib and it worked out good until he got too big to move around in it(He tosses and turns like crazy). I hope you find something that works soon, I know how rough it can be.

[Mars]

I'm no help either, sorry. I never could bring myself to do the CIO but Amara was pretty good with going to bed and during the time when I was trying to teach her to fall asleep on her own, I would put her down and when she stood back up, I would put her to lie down again. If she fussed, I would hold her and calm her down and then try again. That is probably something that goes against the training techniques but I never liked to see her get all worked up.

With waking during the night, I would just get up all the time, pick her up and calm her down and put her back to bed. Eventually she began sleeping through most of the week and then it went to the entire week. Now, I do the same, if she has an odd night where she wakes up, I go pick her up if she wants to be held, help her back to sleep and that's it.

So, I'm sorry I can't help. I just hope he settles soon so that you can get some rest.