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September 1st, 2010, 09:58 AM
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Henry is now 16 months old.

I wasn't even considering this until Henry is much closer to 2 but now I'm not so sure. The Baby Whisper gave us awesome help and success with getting him on a sleep/eating schedule at an early age. So I looked into what she says for TT and she says that some kiddos are ready at 9 months! But the average she recommends is 16 months.

Now we all have different opinions on EC. I've never been interested in this method so I don't have a lot of knowledge on it. But is it still considered EC if you start so "late?" I'm under the impression that if you use EC you try to catch every moment, and it's much more aggressive?

Henry can't talk yet so he can't tell me if he needs to go, and he rarely comes to me as if to alert me of his poopy diaper. But his BMs are starting to get reliable and he almost always wakes up with a dry diaper in the morning. I'm wondering if I should follow the BW advice. She says put LO on the toilet first thing in the morning, 20-30 min. after having a drink/eating, and before bath/bed, just to get them use to sitting on the toilet. This seems like an awful lot of work (for a long time) for a kid that clearly won't be ready to ditch the diaper. But then again, being a SAHM, I feel maybe I should be trying this?
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September 1st, 2010, 10:07 AM
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I say, go for it.

I'm now starting with Amara and she's 19 months. I tried before but she didn't seem ready so I just tried to get her to learn to sit on the potty and what the potty is for. I'm taking it really slowly. Fortunately, the pre-school she's enrolled in also teaches potty training so I think that will help me because this is one are where I'm pretty clueless.
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September 1st, 2010, 10:23 AM
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I don't think you can start too early! Either EC or TT to be honest. Dustin always tells us when he needs to be changed.. and tell us right when he's pooped. He's pooped in the potty once already and sat many times before bath time. I need to do it more... knowing your little ones schedule really helps! Dustin is usually a morning go-er as well, so I need to start on that. I hear 30 mins after breakfast is usually the key time..

With Curtis we started at 2 years. I stripped him down and did naked time while at home and watched his every move. By summer he got pee almost down.... but like I've said before pooping is a HUGE issue and we are STILL working on it. TTing SUCKS at times. I hope he picks it up quick for you!
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September 1st, 2010, 10:42 AM
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Its never to late to start ECing. Because its more about communication than potty training. And is not at all aggressive---its actually pretty lazy LOL.
You can do it Parttime, fulltime, some of the time LOL thats the great part of it. And you can bounce back and forth all the time. A very quick easy read is the Diaper free baby... you can skip the early chapters and go to the "late" ec section and there after. Its meant to be like that so you don't get bogged down reading stuff you don't "need"
Also the Mothering Magazine forum has a WONDERFUL forum for this- Elimination Communication - MotheringDotCommunity Forums
AND my fav is the yahoo group eliminationcommunication those women are life savers!
I love this topic so ask anything!
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September 1st, 2010, 10:46 AM
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If it's something you want to do and think Henry would be okay with then go for it.

I know for me I'd rather wait until Oliver is showing more signs of being ready. I'd rather it take a short time and be done with it rather than a long drawn out process. I have heard great things about the 3 day potty training method but don't have a clue on how it works. I just don't want it to be a long struggle if Oliver isn't ready. Right now he is scared to sit on his potty chair or the big toliet with out a diaper on. I just don't think he is ready so I'm going to wait until he shows more signs. I'm thinking it will be closer to 2.5 yrs old before we get serious about it but it could be earlier or later.

Btw, I'm nervous and scard about PT. It seems like it's going to be a pain in the butt! I guess we will be stuck inside for some time when he is learning. I dread it when we leave the house and have to find a bathroom ASAP for him to use in the public because they are so gross! A diaper is so easy. lol..
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September 1st, 2010, 10:54 AM
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I'm thinking about this too. Right now Matthew almost always poops a few minutes after he finishes his morning nursing session. So I figure it won't hurt anything to sit him on a potty at that time and see what happens. Just need to get the potty chair out and do it!
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September 1st, 2010, 10:54 AM
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Well I HATE toilet training. It was THE worse part of my job when I taught preschool.

I'll change diapers, no problem. Or if you need a potty break, okay I'll help them with unbuttoning their pants.

But that in between period where you have to make sure they remember to go, teaching to wipe, wiping after they poop, dressing/undressing, poop accidents in underwear, endless time on the toilet... UGH
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September 1st, 2010, 10:59 AM
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I know for me I'd rather wait until Oliver is showing more signs of being ready. I'd rather it take a short time and be done with it rather than a long drawn out process.
Thats me. Seamus started potty traning right after Kieran was born. We decided not to "train" him and let him do it his self. One reason for that decisions is because I was scared of regression when Kieran was born since Seamus was still young (well IMO my kids are still close in age, even though others don't see that.) But to our shock he wanted to start going just a week after she was born, he was 2yrs 9mo and by 3yrs 1mo he was fully day trained(poos too, which are harder. Pee's were done by around 2yrs 11mo).
We will do the same with Kieran, wait till she asks to go. She goes potty with me when I go so she's learning that just like Seamus but we don't actively force them to learn.
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September 1st, 2010, 11:09 AM
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Btw, I'm nervous and scard about PT. It seems like it's going to be a pain in the butt! I guess we will be stuck inside for some time when he is learning. I dread it when we leave the house and have to find a bathroom ASAP for him to use in the public because they are so gross! A diaper is so easy. lol..
I assure you I'm not stuck inside at all
i think its way easier than changing a diaper while out in public, heck even while home, I always find it interesting how we all change/changed diapers and some thing thats the easier way and some think holding them over a toilet is the easier way I bet we spend the exact amount of time doing one or the other though
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I assure you I'm not stuck inside at all
i think its way easier than changing a diaper while out in public, heck even while home, I always find it interesting how we all change/changed diapers and some thing thats the easier way and some think holding them over a toilet is the easier way I bet we spend the exact amount of time doing one or the other though
I think it's the nasty public restrooms that worry me
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September 1st, 2010, 12:13 PM
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I assure you I'm not stuck inside at all
i think its way easier than changing a diaper while out in public, heck even while home, I always find it interesting how we all change/changed diapers and some thing thats the easier way and some think holding them over a toilet is the easier way I bet we spend the exact amount of time doing one or the other though
I'm not talking about EC. I understand it's just as easy to hold them over the toliet when they would normaly get a new diaper. I'm talking about him wearing underwear and telling me he has to go NOW when we are in the car or in a store. I'll have to race to find a bathroom and hope he doesn't go in his pants. I'll have to be really on top of things. Unless it goes smoother than I think. Oliver doesn't have typical BM times so I can't just try it at those times. He has started telling me when he has to poop but is scared to sit on the potty. I have two potty chairs out and he is sits on them dressed and knows what they are for. He also comes with me when I use the bathroom almost always.
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September 1st, 2010, 12:32 PM
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I hope my comment didn't sound "debate-y" lol it wasn't meant to at all

Yeah getting a cue while in the car...it sucks! I try to explain we are close and see if he can hold it (he surprises me on how long he can!), but I have pulled over and encouraged the "boy pee on tire/tree/etc" LOL I am partly jealous of boys... I wish I could just "point and shoot" ....oh the pairs of shoes I could have saved at bonfire parties in college LMAO! Its the same bad feeling as when they are doing their "i want to nurse" cues and your driving and you can't pull over to nurse. I actually at one point wished I DIDn't know what he wanted because I felt bad not being able to get to it right away. Its kind of heartbreaking.

I hear all the time its harder for boys but I have no idea why that is... I would think its harder for girls since they usually have to squat to pee. (or sit on the toilet in public bathrooms).

The part I'm the most nervous about---the butt wiping! LOL
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September 1st, 2010, 01:46 PM
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I found potty training while out and about hard... I still do. Curtis is very uncomfortable in new places and tends to hold it as long as he can. It's not just a simple go to the washroom visit. It's a big ordeal. Maybe it's different cause we started when he had more of an oppinion. I never changed him in public washrooms either when he was in diapers.. always in our car or something.

I'm not to sure about other little boys but Curtis wont just pee any where either... he wont pee outside or anything like that. He prefers to use his potty where he is more comfy.

I think it just depends on the child and what they are comfortable with.
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September 1st, 2010, 02:12 PM
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I hope my comment didn't sound "debate-y" lol it wasn't meant to at all

Yeah getting a cue while in the car...it sucks! I try to explain we are close and see if he can hold it (he surprises me on how long he can!), but I have pulled over and encouraged the "boy pee on tire/tree/etc" LOL I am partly jealous of boys... I wish I could just "point and shoot" ....oh the pairs of shoes I could have saved at bonfire parties in college LMAO! Its the same bad feeling as when they are doing their "i want to nurse" cues and your driving and you can't pull over to nurse. I actually at one point wished I DIDn't know what he wanted because I felt bad not being able to get to it right away. Its kind of heartbreaking.

I hear all the time its harder for boys but I have no idea why that is... I would think its harder for girls since they usually have to squat to pee. (or sit on the toilet in public bathrooms).

The part I'm the most nervous about---the butt wiping! LOL
Not at all. I just wanted to be sure to let you know I was talking about when they are older like toddler/preschool age and the need to potty when out.


I rarely change Oliver in public restrooms either. I always do it in my car.
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Not at all. I just wanted to be sure to let you know I was talking about when they are older like toddler/preschool age and the need to potty when out.


I rarely change Oliver in public restrooms either. I always do it in my car.
hehehehehehehehhehe Sorry my mind is in a bad place today! LOL
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If it's something you want to do and think Henry would be okay with then go for it.

I know for me I'd rather wait until Oliver is showing more signs of being ready. I'd rather it take a short time and be done with it rather than a long drawn out process. I have heard great things about the 3 day potty training method but don't have a clue on how it works. I just don't want it to be a long struggle if Oliver isn't ready. Right now he is scared to sit on his potty chair or the big toliet with out a diaper on. I just don't think he is ready so I'm going to wait until he shows more signs. I'm thinking it will be closer to 2.5 yrs old before we get serious about it but it could be earlier or later.

Btw, I'm nervous and scard about PT. It seems like it's going to be a pain in the butt! I guess we will be stuck inside for some time when he is learning. I dread it when we leave the house and have to find a bathroom ASAP for him to use in the public because they are so gross! A diaper is so easy. lol..
This is how I feel too. Reid was scared to sit on the potty at first (we have a kid seat on our regular toilet since he thought that the portable toilet was a toy!) He's better about sitting on the toilet now, but usually just wants to pull of squares of TP and drop them into the toilet This morning he said, "poo poo on potty!" (he says it all the time but just wants to play and has never actually gone) so I put him on the potty. He farted and it scared him! haha. I thought he was sooo close to going poo, but nope. He ended up not pooping until 5 hours later.
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PT is such a personal thing for each kid. Gemma didn't potty train for me. My mom had to work with her. She just fought me on every little thing and didn't want anything to do with any kind of potty even though I had started putting out a potty chair for her to sit on around a year. She would sit on it dressed/naked/in a diaper but she would never go! And now at 5 she's still fighting me. She stays dry all day no problem, never has an accident. But we still have to use pull ups or trainers at night. She just won't quit wetting the bed and I've realized that pushing her or getting upset or making a fuss just makes it worse. Sometimes you just have to let the kid lead you!
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