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  #21  
March 21st, 2014, 07:37 AM
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Leah - That's what our RE is suggesting as well, is likely 3 on day 3 or 1 or 2 on day 5 (depending on if we get any to freeze). I don't anticipate getting alot of eggs, and with MFI, anything on day 3 might arrest soon afterwards, so we're OK with transferring three at that point. *If* we are lucky enough to get a good number of eggs, then we'll wait for day 5 and hope for the best!

As for pharmacies, our clinic has a pharmacy affiliated with them (as did our old clinic), but while their prices are "comparable" to other clinics, there are definitely places to get them cheaper! I know there are a few online shops (legit) to order from, but we are fortunate to have excellent drug coverage, so I haven't looked into it too much. Even here in our city, there's a pharmacy that offers a discount on IVF meds! (The owners did IVF themselves apparently years ago?) Point being, shop around! Your RE should be able to give you a list of DIN numbers and you can call and ask what the prices are on each. And like Leah said, you can get them from different pharmacies too!
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DH: Severe MFI (low counts, low motility, poor morphology and high antibodies), likely caused by poor liver function. Treated with Clomid to increase total counts.

DD: Conceived after 1 year of TTC with progesterone to correct LPD (likely caused by undiagnosed thyroid dysfunction). Born Aug 2009 via c/s after an induction due to pre-e and HELLP.

TTC #2 since Oct10 with an early loss in Aug 2011. Post-wash counts are too low for IUI to be successful, so moving on to IVF/ICSI in May 2014!

IVF/ICSI #1 (May 2014): Estrogen priming and antagonist protocol, including acupuncture and prayer!
17/05/14 - Baseline looks good, start Gonal-F 225iu and Luveris 75iu
28/05/14 - 18 eggs retrieved, 14 mature
29/05/14 - 13 fertilized!!! All are looking great still on day 3, so we're going to blast!
02/06/14 - Transferred one 1BC blast, with 3 other blasts and 3 morulas to watch and freeze
03/06/14 - All embryos have arrested. None to freeze
09/06/14 - Faint BFP at home at 7dp5dt!!!!!
10/06/14 - Beta?
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  #22  
March 21st, 2014, 08:12 AM
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Liyana, they may have frozen yours on Day 3, here, they usually only freeze the strongest, and they wait until day 5 (normally) - but what you said makes sense Good luck!!

And I will transfer EITHER 3 embryos on day 3 OR 2 embryos on day 5...not both It depends on how they are growing - the embryologist will make the decision as to which day I transfer. Sorry for the confusion! - 5 embryos is not allowed here either
Hii Leah,,

Thank you so much for your fast reply!!
So cute of you*
Now I understood what you meant... In your clinic they will only freeze the stongest ones.. wow.. okay.. here in my clinic they are freezing all embies which are atleast in 6 grade...(So in these 5 froesties what I have 2 of them were 8 grade and 3 of them 6 grade)...Yeah.. perhaps they are also the strongest ones then?
I agree that normally they wait until day 5 ---. Perhaps my RE was scared that my embies will not live until day 5 that's why I had transfer last time @ day 3?

Aa Okay thanks for the information ,,hehe.. sry I did misunderstood..

I wish you so so so much luck, honey.
Are you not afraid to have triplets in fact that you transfer 3 embies @ day 3 - if the situation will be like that? Which choice you prefer ? 3 embies at Day 3 or 2 embies at Day 5?

Many many many big hugs to you
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ER: 17.06.14 (retrived 12 eggs, 6 fertilized)
ET: 19.06.14 ( Two, 4-cell embies transfered) BFN!! 3 frosties
BETA: 14dp2dt, 03.07.14 Negative

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  #23  
March 21st, 2014, 10:11 AM
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Leah, I did the exact same thing. I used Walgreen's specialty pharmacy and I liked them overall. One time there was a fex ex plane that was delayed so my meds by one day but since I was ahead of the game by ordering, it was perfectly fine. Leah- what state are you in (if you don't mind sharing)?
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1st beta on 7/21/14 114.7
2nd beta on 7/23/14 233
3rd beta on 7/25/14 474

First U/S 8/7
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  #24  
March 21st, 2014, 11:01 AM
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Thanks Leah! I've called 5 pharmacies on my lunch break, and Walgreens is actually the cheapest so far (in the US). Going to look outside the country for my next trick! Gotta get our "First Steps" signed up to see if we qualify for any help that way... and then the Heart Plus.. and if we do go w/ Walgreens, there's the New Life Agency discount card to apply for (I'm sure you have that, right?). If we could just win the lottery! That part of the stress would be better. I told my husband that he's not allowed to vent to me about the $$ part of this. He needs to vent to his brother or friends or someone else, I can't take any extra pressure/stress!! I *know* how expensive this is for the both of us... just need to focus on getting some Easter eggies!!
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10/19/14 - DE IVF, Transferred two 8-cell embies (3dt)
10/28/14 - 1st Beta = 70 at 9dp3dt
10/30/14 - 2nd Beta = 163 at 11dp3dt
11/5/14 - 3rd Beta = 1300 at 17dp3dt
11/17/14 - U/S - Twins, both with flickers of heartbeats!
11/25/14 - One twin stopped growing and lost their hb. :'( The other measures perfectly, hb: 157.
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  #25  
March 21st, 2014, 11:56 AM
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Y'all can talk about pharmacies, meds, etc., it's just frowned upon if it looks like someone comes to the site directly for promoting a specific place. Also, you cannot sell meds via this site- that is against the TOS.

Good luck to all of you!
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  #26  
March 21st, 2014, 01:44 PM
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Erin I have used Walgreens specialty pharmacy for each of our cycles so far and they were the cheapest for me with joining the discount program. We are also all OOP now that we moved. Definitely shop around though. Even check local pharmacies or ask your RE if they have any recommendations or donated meds that they would let you use. Just some ideas.


Leah on our last fresh cycle we also sat and waited to hear which day we would transfer. We ended up with a day 5 transfer of the best two blasts and got pregnant. The cycle that I was forced to do a 3 day was our only cycle we didn't get pregnant on. Granted Im pretty sure being sick with mono and H1N1 a month and a half before didn't help. lol


I will add that we transferred 4 embryos with my son. 1 was very poor and the rest were great quality and we only have 1 little man so you never know!
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  #27  
March 21st, 2014, 06:36 PM
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JenJen It's a good thing I post so much; no one would ever think I was here simply to promote a pharmacy. LOL.
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IVF #1: 3/4/2014
Not successful. Refuse to dwell on the specifics.

FET 7/11/2014
Transferred 1 six day 5BB blast embryo
1st beta on 7/21/14 114.7
2nd beta on 7/23/14 233
3rd beta on 7/25/14 474

First U/S 8/7
Measured perfectly, looked perfect and HB was 121 (I may be bias on the perfect part.)
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  #28  
March 22nd, 2014, 04:25 AM
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Hello, My name is Jen and I am starting my first IVF cycle march 29 with stims, so ER 4/7-4/14 is what they predict. I would love any hints/ suggestions from anyone going through this before/ with me or who has done it before. (I just can't count that I started the IVF cycle with the start of bc pills. It just doesn't seem right) I hope to join you all.I am 37, with blocked tubes and my husband is 44 with no known problems.We have been trying for 19 months.
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  #29  
March 22nd, 2014, 09:51 AM
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Good luck Jilly!!! Exciting times for sure! Thanks for the feedback ladies! I've found some drugs from Israel to be the cheapest so far. I know they have regulations in Israel for meds. going to look into it more and see how long it takes to get here. Since we're doing mini/med stim, I have a little extra time... we're going to be starting out with Femara then going to injectables.

I feel better about asking now Jen!! It's insane how much these things cost! I can't imagine a full IVF cycle (then again, you typically doing go into that knowing you'd have to do 3). My coworker said I Need to start bringing cookies to work and selling them to fundraise! :laugh:
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10/19/14 - DE IVF, Transferred two 8-cell embies (3dt)
10/28/14 - 1st Beta = 70 at 9dp3dt
10/30/14 - 2nd Beta = 163 at 11dp3dt
11/5/14 - 3rd Beta = 1300 at 17dp3dt
11/17/14 - U/S - Twins, both with flickers of heartbeats!
11/25/14 - One twin stopped growing and lost their hb. :'( The other measures perfectly, hb: 157.
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  #30  
March 22nd, 2014, 11:50 AM
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Yep, IVF is expensive. We've been saving since it's 100% OOP for us and we wanted to have enough to pay for 1 fresh cycle + 2 FET cycles before we move forward, especially since we'll be traveling for our cycle(s).
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  #31  
March 22nd, 2014, 01:03 PM
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Hii Leah,,

Are you not afraid to have triplets in fact that you transfer 3 embies @ day 3 - if the situation will be like that? Which choice you prefer ? 3 embies at Day 3 or 2 embies at Day 5?

Many many many big hugs to you
I am not afraid of triplets, I have had 3 fresh and one frozen transfer and I have never gotten pregnant with twins and we transferred 2 embryos each time. This is my 5th and final transfer, so we decided we'd rather have twins or triplets than nothing. My clinic will not let you transfer 3 unless you are over 35 and have had previous failed cycles. I definitely qualify!

I'm torn on the transfer thing. I've gotten pg twice (one was Mallory) on a 3 day transfer, however ,my last transfer was a 5dt and they put in a PERFECT embryo and a perfect morula, and I had just a chemical pregnancy. So, for some reason 3dt's are better for me (in my opinion!). I did, however, get heartburn the night of my last transfer and I had it for over 20+ hours. I think my body was just so stressed out, it didn't work. No more pizza hut Pan Pizza for me!

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Hello, My name is Jen and I am starting my first IVF cycle march 29 with stims, so ER 4/7-4/14 is what they predict. I would love any hints/ suggestions from anyone going through this before/ with me or who has done it before. (I just can't count that I started the IVF cycle with the start of bc pills. It just doesn't seem right) I hope to join you all.I am 37, with blocked tubes and my husband is 44 with no known problems.We have been trying for 19 months.
Welcome!! I am 37 too, my Dh is 42 This is my 4th IVF and some of the other girls have done many cycles as well, so if you have questions, ask away

Best of luck to you!

I know, the BCP thing always seems wrong to me too. It's the only med my insurance covers....hahahaa if they only knew why I was taking it!

KELKI - I am in Wisconsin Where are you?
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IVF#2 BFP 4/2013 M/C 6/2/13 (8 weeks)
FET #1 BFP 8/2013 - Chemical Pregnancy
IVF #3 - Retrieval Oct 31st, Txferred 2 on 5d - a Blast and Morula - Chemical Pregnancy
IVF #4 - ER scheduled for 4/4/14 retrieved 4 eggs. Txferred 3 embryos 4/7/14!....BFN...NOW WHAT?
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  #32  
March 23rd, 2014, 11:40 AM
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Leah, I'm in Oregon! I thought based on some of your responses over the last month we could be in the same place. Darn...
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IVF #1: 3/4/2014
Not successful. Refuse to dwell on the specifics.

FET 7/11/2014
Transferred 1 six day 5BB blast embryo
1st beta on 7/21/14 114.7
2nd beta on 7/23/14 233
3rd beta on 7/25/14 474

First U/S 8/7
Measured perfectly, looked perfect and HB was 121 (I may be bias on the perfect part.)
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  #33  
March 23rd, 2014, 04:54 PM
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Hi ladies! Just a little about myself- I'm 35 (actually will be turning 36 this week)-husband is 38. We did 2 years of fertility treatments (injections with timed intercourse and 2 IUIs) This ended in 4 miscarriages. After taking 3 years off I will now be starting my first IVF cycle. My baseline appt is the 25th and should be starting stims on march 29th. Looking forward to connecting with some of you going through this at the same time.
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  #34  
March 23rd, 2014, 06:39 PM
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Welcome Chortler!! I'm a week ahead of you! I had my baseline last Wednesday and started Meds on Saturday (the 22nd) Best of luck to you!!! Any questions? Ask away.
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IVF#2 BFP 4/2013 M/C 6/2/13 (8 weeks)
FET #1 BFP 8/2013 - Chemical Pregnancy
IVF #3 - Retrieval Oct 31st, Txferred 2 on 5d - a Blast and Morula - Chemical Pregnancy
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March 24th, 2014, 06:02 AM
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Starting Provera tonight!! Let this cycle be over so a new one begins!! lets go
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10/19/14 - DE IVF, Transferred two 8-cell embies (3dt)
10/28/14 - 1st Beta = 70 at 9dp3dt
10/30/14 - 2nd Beta = 163 at 11dp3dt
11/5/14 - 3rd Beta = 1300 at 17dp3dt
11/17/14 - U/S - Twins, both with flickers of heartbeats!
11/25/14 - One twin stopped growing and lost their hb. :'( The other measures perfectly, hb: 157.
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  #36  
March 24th, 2014, 08:16 AM
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Welcome Chortler!! I'm a week ahead of you! I had my baseline last Wednesday and started Meds on Saturday (the 22nd) Best of luck to you!!! Any questions? Ask away.
Hi Leah*

Your ER is coming closer day after day!! Yepiii
I agree with you ofc - its better to get twins /triplets than nothing! Especially if its your final IVF cycle!
Uhh, my fingers are crossed for you darling! I wish you ton`s of luck that you will get many many eggs! Do you have your ET date? Love to hear from you!
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ER: 17.06.14 (retrived 12 eggs, 6 fertilized)
ET: 19.06.14 ( Two, 4-cell embies transfered) BFN!! 3 frosties
BETA: 14dp2dt, 03.07.14 Negative

IVF#4
FET 17.09.14 (2 beautiful blastocysts transferred). BFP 6dpt.

BETA: 14dpt,1.10.14 2300! Second BETA 21dpt 08.10.14 14610!!!! 1 baby
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  #37  
March 24th, 2014, 02:38 PM
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Liyana, it's tentatively 4/2, but it will probably change, I'm sure I'll stim longer than they suggest LOLChortler - I'm so sorry for your losses. Did they get to do any testing to find out why? Have you ever been testing for a blood clotting disorder? I am on baby aspirin and Lovenox to prevent m/c from a possible clotting disorder.
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IVF#2 BFP 4/2013 M/C 6/2/13 (8 weeks)
FET #1 BFP 8/2013 - Chemical Pregnancy
IVF #3 - Retrieval Oct 31st, Txferred 2 on 5d - a Blast and Morula - Chemical Pregnancy
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March 24th, 2014, 02:49 PM
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Does anyone know what their E2 (Estrogen/estradiol) levels were at their first bloodwork appt (cycle day 3 or 4) after starting stims?

My baseline was 18.2 (after estrogen priming!!!! ) Mine is at 39.3 today, CD3 ...last cycle it was 68 and they said THAT was low and bumped me up in meds (adding a Bravelle)...my first cycle it was 190.

I'm trying not to get upset, because things can change quickly with IVF...but I hate that I don't have age on my side *sigh*

So now I'll be doing 8 Bravelle a day! That is over $400 a day in meds! Praying so hard this cycle doesn't get cancelled.

I take 2 more Bravelle tonight to try to help bump it up...
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IVF#2 BFP 4/2013 M/C 6/2/13 (8 weeks)
FET #1 BFP 8/2013 - Chemical Pregnancy
IVF #3 - Retrieval Oct 31st, Txferred 2 on 5d - a Blast and Morula - Chemical Pregnancy
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March 24th, 2014, 10:57 PM
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Hey Leah- i'm sorry you have to take additional meds. that is sooooo expensive! i'm not sure what my blood was at, our clinic did not share any of that info with us. i'm saying a prayer for you! i hope your levels improve quickly

sending out prayers to all of you girls!
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Medicated cycle Sept 2013 Failed Cycle

1st Nov 2013, IVF 16 eggs, 8 fertilized, 2 survived to day 5 - CGH screening
transferred 2 5d embies (2 boys) 12/5/13
no frosties
chemical pregnancy (beta1 25, beta2 39, beta3 41)
AF 12/23/13 Failed Cycle

2nd IVF Feb 2014, 12 eggs, 10 fertilized, 2 survived to day 6 - PGD screening
transferred 2 6d embies (2 boys) 1/7/14
no frosties
beta1 3/17/14 .07 beta2 3/20/14 Failed Cycle


3rd IVF May 2014 ,12 eggs, day 2- 8 fertilized, day 3- 9 fertilized,
day 7 - 0 blasts Failed Cycle


4th IVF Nov 2014, 16 eggs, 10 fertilized (6 Dh & 4 DS), 2 Made it to day 5- NGS screening transferred 2 5d embies (2 girls) 11/13/14
no frosties
beta1 11/21/14 14, beta2 11/25/14 13 Failed cycle
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March 24th, 2014, 11:28 PM
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Leah, I hope everything works out great; you have been amazing to me over the last few months. You deserve the best this cycle and I know you'll get it!!
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FET 7/11/2014
Transferred 1 six day 5BB blast embryo
1st beta on 7/21/14 114.7
2nd beta on 7/23/14 233
3rd beta on 7/25/14 474

First U/S 8/7
Measured perfectly, looked perfect and HB was 121 (I may be bias on the perfect part.)
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