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August 22nd, 2012, 05:00 PM
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And I think she was high when she wrote this.

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Our agreement for the summer as per your request, was that I get 2 weeksfor vacation starting as soon as school let out, as it's always been. No matter who has custody, and you get 2 weeks vacation time as well. Rachel called me back in May to discuss this with me, as she is the one I am sent to make such arrangements. I said, " June 22nd to July 1st" where Rachel said that, that was fine and since they could sleep on the way to Kentucky, it would be fine.
I picked August 17th -26th and she and I talked about how Daniel was gonna be 7 already the day after my birthday. We also comented about how with the arrangement being that way, I had them for a while stretch in the beginning of the summer and right before school starts.
This date being marked as my vacation was also seen when you pulled out your calendar before the first vacation back before you played at the SINIX.

I intend on having my vacation with the boys as we agreed upon. I do understand that they do have school the next day and they may not be as ready as they had hoped to have the guys so, if you would like to pick them up on Sunday August 26th between 1 and 2 pm so that they may get home and get ready, let me know and that will be fine.

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1. I had a discussion with her in JUNE about the week long visit. She wanted them when they got out of school for a week, starting June 8th. I told her that they had a dentist appointment on June 11th, so it would not be possible for them to start a week-long visit with her at that time, but she could keep until noon on Monday the 11th since their appointment was at 2. She could then have a week starting June 22nd and keep them till the 29th. I did mention that she could talk to Neely about the possibility of getting them for another week later in the summer, but we never discussed a date.

2. After I planned my trip to visit my parents in Kentucky, Neely talked to her with a calendar because it was necessary for her to skip a weekend because of the trip and she agreed as long as she could have them for a second weekend (June 29th - July 1). She's now claiming that the calendar had this week marked off as her week. I just pulled the calendar out and it has NOTHING marked in August.

3. She has already had the boys extra time that would equal two weeks, i.e., an extra night on June 8th to 11th (1 extra day), July 20th to 26th (4 extra days), August 3 to August 6th (1 extra day).

4. She's trying to claim that she made arrangements with me but then says she made the arrangements with Neely as well.

5. I never had a friendly conversation with her about her birthday and Daniel's birthday. I can't stand that their birthdays are so close, so I don't discuss it with her. It's a source of conflict for us because she wants them on her birthday and we want them home for Daniel's birthday and she's been a WITCH about it since his 1st birthday.

This email doesn't get her out of trouble. It's just more crazy. And bizarre and hard to follow.

ETA: "like it's always been" is BS. They moved in summer 2009. She didn't have them for an overnight till October. In 2010 they didn't spend any time with her during the summer because she didn't have a suitable place for them to stay. In 2011, she had them 10 days before I gave birth to Keelan so, July 19th ish to July 31st when I came home from the hospital. She's on drugs.
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August 22nd, 2012, 05:44 PM
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I don't understand where these women pull 2 weeks out of their butts. Our BM does the same thing. I swear, we are dealing with the same women.

But even IF there were arrangements for her to have them for 2 weeks it gives her no right to just take them without giving any notice.

Crazy crazy crazy.
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August 22nd, 2012, 06:20 PM
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The order doesn't address summer visitation at all. It gives her every other weekend from 6:00 pm Friday to 7:00 Sunday, Mother's Day with her, Father's Day with him, 1/2 of the major holidays and that's it!
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August 22nd, 2012, 07:06 PM
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Two weeks *is* in dh's pp and it specifies that he is entitled to choose those dates. That said, it also states that if he doesn't choose by a certain time (I think at the end of April, but I could be wrong - summer vacation here is end of May-end of July/early August) it defaults to being the week of June 15th and the week of July 15th or something like that.

If there's nothing in there about yours, though, she's totally nuts. That's the exact reason that we handle EVERYTHING with bm via email. The *only* time in the last year and a half that we have discussed something in person was over something as simple as getting them from her house to our house before our trip to Canada. Even over something as trivial as that, she caused a bunch of crap and back tracked on the conversation and then argued with us up until less than 12 hours before the drop off/pick up was supposed to be. She asked us to discuss things about my oldest dss over the phone with her back when it all started and we flatly told her no. We aren't comfortable with it and she's repeatedly proven that even the most trivial of issues need to be handled in writing with her. It's insane, but it's the only way to keep things on the straight and narrow.

I'm just so sorry you're dealing with this. What a total mess. I can feel the crazy radiating from here.
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August 22nd, 2012, 07:23 PM
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I'm sick of her and I don't even have to deal with her. What a lunatic.
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August 22nd, 2012, 08:16 PM
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Two weeks *is* in dh's pp and it specifies that he is entitled to choose those dates. That said, it also states that if he doesn't choose by a certain time (I think at the end of April, but I could be wrong - summer vacation here is end of May-end of July/early August) it defaults to being the week of June 15th and the week of July 15th or something like that.

If there's nothing in there about yours, though, she's totally nuts. That's the exact reason that we handle EVERYTHING with bm via email. The *only* time in the last year and a half that we have discussed something in person was over something as simple as getting them from her house to our house before our trip to Canada. Even over something as trivial as that, she caused a bunch of crap and back tracked on the conversation and then argued with us up until less than 12 hours before the drop off/pick up was supposed to be. She asked us to discuss things about my oldest dss over the phone with her back when it all started and we flatly told her no. We aren't comfortable with it and she's repeatedly proven that even the most trivial of issues need to be handled in writing with her. It's insane, but it's the only way to keep things on the straight and narrow.

I'm just so sorry you're dealing with this. What a total mess. I can feel the crazy radiating from here.
I think that's going to be the way to go from here on out, but she generally does not respond to emails, like at all, unless it benefits her or suits her purpose. I guess what we should do from here on out is follow up every conversation we have with her with a letter that says: "pursuant to our conversation of [such-and-such date], you agreed ... blah, blah, blah.

What burns me the most is she says she's relying on a conversation she had with me, but when the kids left I said "see you Sunday" and she didn't say a word. She was right there. When Neely questioned her about that she said "oh, I don't pay attention to what she says." Well does she or doesn't she?
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August 23rd, 2012, 02:27 AM
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ugh. ugh x a million.

I'd have it put somewhere that from now on, all communication regarding the boys be done via email. It covers everyone's butt, and makes it harder for her to be bat snit crazy!

ugh. lol. I'm so annoyed for you.

Do you think the boys will come home Sunday?
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August 23rd, 2012, 07:11 AM
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Oh Wow she is a nut case.
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August 23rd, 2012, 10:38 AM
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I would still discuss it with your lawyer. To me, she should be made to follow the custody order and if she doesn't plan to do that, press the charges, get the kids back & move on from here. I wouldn't respond to the email she sent until you discuss with your lawyer what should happen next though.

I'm sorry you have to deal with this nonsense. Maybe her shoes are two sizes too small or her head isn't screwed on just right. The bottom line is there's a written custody agreement & nowhere does it state that she gets them for week long stretches, period. Anything outside of the custody agreement that is arranged should be put in writing for sure and have her acknowledge having received it, either by signing that she agrees, or read receipts via email. How ridiculous you have to go through all of this. This is why custody battles and arrangements turn ugly and parents can't reach an agreement; because people like her who do whatever they want, write their own rules, and assume they'll get away with it.
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August 23rd, 2012, 11:47 AM
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oh goodlord. I'm sure you turned that over with all of your facts relating to it as well.

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August 23rd, 2012, 12:38 PM
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This is just crazy. I'm sorry you guys are going through this!
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August 23rd, 2012, 06:24 PM
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She's fnuts! I had re read what she types a few times to even try to follow it.
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August 24th, 2012, 12:59 PM
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Crazy! She definitely went to the same crazy school as Dh's ex. We got the "Let's stick to July 20th as we had originally planned" after she had her stroke. We NEVER agreed to July 20th
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