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November 8th, 2012, 12:45 PM
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I have to admit I laughed when I heard they ddin't win their home states. I mean really?
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November 8th, 2012, 12:49 PM
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Not to get into a deep theological discussion here, but for what it's worth, the people who get caught up in the rules, in the judgement, in the legalism, in cultural religion instead of followig Christ... They're really missing the point and that kind of thing is not at all reflective of the real message, and those people are not reflective of all of us. My faith makes me feel free, not bondaged. I'm not trying to sway you and faith is a personal journey for everyone, but I would hate for you to believe that hardcore republican Christianity is an accurate reflection of the God that many of us believe in.
Nah, I've struggled my whole life with faith, by 2010 it was pretty much gone (I really enjoyed my minister calling me a murder and telling me I was going to hell for choosing to end the twins suffering lives earlier than God would have and telling me to get the hell outta his church...they pretty much lost me then and there). Then someone helped me bring some back... but I realized recently I shouldn't have to fight tooth and nail with myself to believe. I still believe in "something" but I really have no idea what it is. So I'm not faithless, I just feel I have a little less faith in what I was brought up to believe (I was raised Anglican.. which is Episcopalian down here). Like you said, you feel free in your beliefs, which is exactly what you are supposed to feel. I didn't, and that's always bothered me (and made me a little jealous of those who did).

I have always been, and will always be a "show me the facts" girl and a science geek. I had issues mixing them together in a way that felt natural to me. I think this realization has been a long time coming and at least for right now, I feel good about it. In 5 years I may be bundling all the kids off to Church on Sunday, one never really knows.








and yeah Rachel, we had a discussion about that here a while back after someone said on Facebook "If Obama is cream of their crop, 2016 is in the bag."


I really feel like they expected Obama to move heaven and earth in order to be a success and then used everything they could to stop him. It's like telling your 2 year old to put away their clothes and have them all go on a hanging rack 3 feet above their head and wonder WHY they didn't get anything done.

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I have to admit I laughed when I heard they ddin't win their home states. I mean really?
Ro, we had a pretty good moment on Election night when Wisconsin went to Obama.. I swear everyone had their sliding doors open because there was a huge round of "YA's!" and "Go Wisconsin!"

But I think Ryan kept his spot in... Senate didn't he? He had a huge lead in his district when we last checked.
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November 8th, 2012, 02:17 PM
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Mass. NEVER faked the funk about liking Romney. They straight up said nah man don't do it from the very beginning. And the RNC was like nah he's good. What CBS said was very true: They tried to play the numbers and forgot about the people behind them. They figured he could win the big swing states and it wouldn't matter that his own people didn't like him.

I think if the GOP had flipped around McCain and Romney things would be very different.
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November 8th, 2012, 03:37 PM
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Nah, I've struggled my whole life with faith, by 2010 it was pretty much gone (I really enjoyed my minister calling me a murder and telling me I was going to hell for choosing to end the twins suffering lives earlier than God would have and telling me to get the hell outta his church...they pretty much lost me then and there). Then someone helped me bring some back... but I realized recently I shouldn't have to fight tooth and nail with myself to believe. I still believe in "something" but I really have no idea what it is. So I'm not faithless, I just feel I have a little less faith in what I was brought up to believe (I was raised Anglican.. which is Episcopalian down here). Like you said, you feel free in your beliefs, which is exactly what you are supposed to feel. I didn't, and that's always bothered me (and made me a little jealous of those who did).

I have always been, and will always be a "show me the facts" girl and a science geek. I had issues mixing them together in a way that felt natural to me. I think this realization has been a long time coming and at least for right now, I feel good about it. In 5 years I may be bundling all the kids off to Church on Sunday, one never really knows.
I'm speaking believer to believer here, if anyone else reading this doesn't believe Jesus died for you, I am not asking for that debate. I'm happy to discuss salvation, but I do not debate it.

I'm sorry you were so hurt by your preacher Ashley! For believers, everything begins and ends at the cross. Your sin is no worse than mine. No worse than your preachers. Shame on him for thinking he knows who goes to Heaven and Hell. No matter what you think you have done, the blood of Jesus, his sacrifice, was the final atonement for this fallen world we live in. There is nothing you or I can do that will make God love you any more or any less.

I am no minister, but I would be glad to talk Jesus with you and be a friend.
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