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May 5th, 2013, 04:12 AM
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I was just wondering how it works where you live. I'm from Australia, here it goes by their income. When myself separated I was left with the 20K personal bank loan that we got on 09 and both spent 10 each to buy cars, he has made no repayments on at all and because he is classed as a low income earner because of unemployment, I get $30 a month for our 4 kids and that's it. So while I'm drowning financially, getting basically no help from him what so ever, he is apparently saving for a holiday to Thailand, living at his Mothers house rent, food and utility free.

Is the system over there as jacked up as here?
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May 5th, 2013, 05:51 AM
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I have heard many stories like that from our child support system. I have not had to deal with it.
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May 6th, 2013, 12:57 PM
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Sounds kind of like ours It goes by state, but I think all (most?) states are income based, too. Although, before I moved, it was potential income based. So even though my son's dad wasn't working, he was responsible to pay based on his income potential.
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May 6th, 2013, 04:35 PM
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It can be.

They took DH's average montly income from the year prior to the divorce, and put that in the formula with L's.... once all the numbers were crunched, she gets $166.60 per week while dh is working. They set it up that since long periods of unemployment where she provided the income were common, that DH would just have Reme 50% of those periods and she could choose to receive support for her 50% and pay Dh for his 50% or just waive it. Since the formula didn't work in her favor for her 50% they chose to wave it.

Wisconsin is 17% of income, but they can give a set amount per month.. which it sounds like they need to do for you. Are jobs hard to find over there? Or is he staying unemployed just to be a jerk?
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May 6th, 2013, 07:07 PM
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He works cash mostly and even when he does work and earn a good wage, it's all calculated by the way he does his taxes which make him appear to be low income.
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January 1st, 2014, 04:28 PM
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Child support in Wisconsin is pretty jacked up if ya ask me and I experience it as a payee and payer. It's supposed to be a percentage of the income (17 for one child, 25 for two, and so on), the court sets a certain amount based on those percentages. But it's too "black and white" in my opinion. No consideration is taken for other children in the home or if a payer loses their job. In most cases the NC parent is ordered to pay support, carry health/dental, and pay 50% of uninsured health and dental costs. Many times this is lopsided. Not every case is the same therefore they shouldn't all be treated the same.
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January 2nd, 2014, 08:42 AM
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In Illinois it's based on the non-custodial parents income minus a few standard deductions (health insurance premiums etc). I know in some states the custodial parent's income is taken in to account but in Illinois it's not. Also lucky for us because I make substantially more than dh, my income is not included. I think for some states it would be. They do not take into account debt, other children etc.

I always joke with dh about not being able to afford to divorce him. The amounts are 24% for the 1st child and then 4% for each additional child. Since dh's ex has 1st claim, she'd continue to get 28% of his income while I would get 8% for our 2 kids. Thankfully we're not planning to divorce
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January 2nd, 2014, 10:11 AM
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Income-based with deviations for special circumstances. It's not awful, but it's definitely not a perfect system. We're currently paying more than half of dh's paycheck while his ex works cash jobs that are not accounted for in the calculations, has friends paying bills for her (meanwhile, she's got a huge TV, a new laptop, new computer, always has the latest iPhone, etc.) and claims that she's paying $700 per month out of pocket for my dss' medications (she pays a $10 copay, a $4 copay and a $15 copay, and we reimburse her for 50% if she sends us receipts). My daughter's financial costs are not taken into the calculations either because she was born after the latest calculations were done.

My youngest dsc were spouting off phrases like, "You get more money if there are more people in your house." over Christmas, so that was... illuminating.

It's not a perfect system on either side.
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January 2nd, 2014, 02:41 PM
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In FL it's based on income of both parents, child care expenses, health care cost, percentage of over nights spend with the children, number of children and who claims them on their taxes. The number of overnights is fairly new and really effects the amount paid. If my exH wanted to declare one then he paid more support. The financial has more stuff on it but those things are what really makes up the amount paid.

You better believe I kept track of every single overnight my exH had with the kids. He owed serious arrears from when he was unemployed and when he also just didn't pay. He made a terrible, but accurate impression, on the child support hearing officer and they imputed wages for him. Good news for him is when he terminated his parental rights and my DH adopted the kids, ExH's back child support was taken away, as he no longer had any children.
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January 2nd, 2014, 03:15 PM
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Oh, I forgot about taxes. There's nothing in dh and his ex's settlement about taxes, so she gets the right to claim them by default even though she doesn't work. It's actually rather stupid because if she refuses to let dh claim them, he can't claim them on his paycheck withholdings which ultimately means a smaller number on each paycheck (and as a result means a smaller amount of CS for her, too).
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January 3rd, 2014, 08:19 AM
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For us with taxes, they each take one kid until the oldest is out of college & then they'll trade every other year until the youngest is out of college.
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January 3rd, 2014, 10:23 AM
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Here its based on my exes income. He is suppose to keep health insurance on them but he doesn't use it at all. I use my coverage. He is suppose to help with sports and any extraordinary expenses. He doesn't help with that either.
My ex just pays child support and nothing extra. He has been sent receipts but he refuses to re emburse me at all. we are currently waiting to go back to court.
He hasn't paid his child support since Nov.15th 2013 he retired from the military and he didn't change his paper work so they are going after him.
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January 3rd, 2014, 11:35 AM
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Before BM filed for CS back in 2006, DH was voluntarily paying her every month. Well she decided for some reason to be a jerk and take him to court, (Though she did waive any past support because she knew she already got it,) and the court actually ordered him to pay less than he had been. Turns out he was being more generous than the courts wanted him to be.

Now, or in the last two years, we haven't had to pay CS because we have him 50% of the time. We all agreed that both parents should be equally responsible for financial stuff, so while he is in your care, you provide for him and vice versa.

Now, we have him full time, and when we filed for full custody, we asked that she not pay us child support. I don't know if the courts will allow that, but she has no job and no money so I don't know what she'd give us anyway.
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January 3rd, 2014, 04:11 PM
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There must be something about Thailand? My exH also took two trips there when he wasn't paying child support. It's part of what made him look so bad in front the Child Support Officer.
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