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  #1  
May 31st, 2012, 12:18 PM
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BFN. Nothing new to that – BLA!
Anyways – he does bloodwork and u/s as well. Says my lining looks like I am either pregnant or getting ready to start AF at any time. Well – he also does a breast exam on me and he gets freaking milky stuff out of both boops! WHAT. I saw it for myself. I freaked out. I haven’t seen that since I was nursing 13 years ago. He then again says- you could be pregnant or your prolactin hormone is messed up.
Being 42 he suspects my late period and my leaky bbs on my hormones being jacked up cause of my age now and I am not pregnant at all.
Also got scheduled for a mammogram as well.  Also talked about upcoming IVF in Oct and that I need to get a donor picked and financing started SOON.
Please please please say your prayers for me that my leaky bbs means I am pregnant! Please! I know it isn’t true, but PLEASE let it be.

Has anyone else had abnormally long cycles after ttcma? I have had it twice now since Feb and I want to blame TTCMA, but he says no it's my age.
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Me (43) DH(33) 12 years together - ttc our first together-I have 14yr old DS
Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
BETA # 4 30DPO or 25dp5dt = 12,685 6weeks 3days 2 heartbeats! 114 & 116
Clayton and Colton Born @ 34 weeks 11/22/13
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May 31st, 2012, 12:46 PM
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ttcma has totally jacked up my cycles, but I was never that regular on my own. good luck!
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May 31st, 2012, 12:49 PM
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I was regular on my own..now I am not. My RE refuses to admit it has anything to do with MA. I just don't believe it. Although I am 42, but numbers are fine and I am to young to be going into menopause. I refuse to believe that!
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Me (43) DH(33) 12 years together - ttc our first together-I have 14yr old DS
Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
BETA # 4 30DPO or 25dp5dt = 12,685 6weeks 3days 2 heartbeats! 114 & 116
Clayton and Colton Born @ 34 weeks 11/22/13
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June 1st, 2012, 05:45 AM
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BFN - Knew that. But my linning was pretty solid so AF should be here anyday. It's gonig to be a monster since I pretty much skipped an AF althogher now. RE is going to call me today as to what to do and if he is going to give me meds to get me started. All depends on my bloodwork.

Also my thyroid showed a little elevated. That means it's underactive? That could be the reason for the super late AF. It wasn't elevated in Feb, the last time I had my blood all worked up. I have gained some unexplained weight though...like 10-15 lbs. I thought it was still a side effect of all the meds from ttcma. I guess I'll know more today.

What is up with the leaky bbs though? My prolactin was fine at 4.5 they said. I tried to make them leak myself last night and couldn't get anything. Who knows - I am falling apart!
I hope the thyroid thing is a fluke and deosn't stop us from IVF in Oct.
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Me (43) DH(33) 12 years together - ttc our first together-I have 14yr old DS
Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
BETA # 4 30DPO or 25dp5dt = 12,685 6weeks 3days 2 heartbeats! 114 & 116
Clayton and Colton Born @ 34 weeks 11/22/13
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June 1st, 2012, 07:01 AM
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June 1st, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Thank you. I went to have acupunture today again. (second time) She said she will have my thyroid balanced and fixed by the time they give me bloodwork again.
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Gretchen
Me (43) DH(33) 12 years together - ttc our first together-I have 14yr old DS
Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
BETA # 4 30DPO or 25dp5dt = 12,685 6weeks 3days 2 heartbeats! 114 & 116
Clayton and Colton Born @ 34 weeks 11/22/13
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June 1st, 2012, 10:48 AM
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good luck Gretchen! How elevated was your thyroid? The higher the TSH level the more underactive the thyroid is. One of the things I've learned over many years dealing with mine is that there's a whole dispute w/in medical community on what is abnormal/high and should be treated with meds....if it's only slightly elevated (between 2.0 -3.0) i would doubt it would effect TTC but it's worth asking if you should go on meds to decrease to optimal level if you're worried. If you're having other symptoms (swollen thyroid, hoarse throat, cold hands, etc) most doctors will treat with synthroid (or other similar med) even if you're technically below the normal cut-off for hypo diagnosis (which traditionally i think was a TSH of a 4.0 or greater however newer research is suggesting they should treat more aggressively at 3.0).

My own was considered sub-clinical (at a 3.8) hypo but i had so many other severe symptoms that my doctor treated with meds anyway. Also be aware if you do go the med route: 1) make sure whatever brand of med they put you on you stay on - do not let pharmacy swap for generic/other brand (they all work differently, and i'm always catching this with my pharmacy) and 2) it often takes months to lower & find the optimal med level to keep TSH in right zone (not too high/not too low) so if it's high enough they worry it could impact your TTC i'd def recommend pushing to start meds immediately and then prepare to be monitored every month for awhile to track the levels & adjust meds if necessary.

I hope the acupuncture fixes it for you instead of going the med route though - KUP on how you're doing!
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June 4th, 2012, 09:53 AM
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hum? Interesting. I don't know anything about the Thyroid stuff. In Feb it was 3.65 and last week it was 4.25. He said 2-4 was normal range so mine is a little high but he isn't concerned about it, but we will keep an eye on it.

From your data though it looks like it's real high. I don't have any symptoms that I know of. Maybe a little weight gain, but I thought that was from TTCMA. I feel like I still haven't recovered from the meds from stims and such. Gosh what do you suggest I do? Try the accupunture for a few months and then get it tested again to see if it helped?
Will losing weight help?
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Gretchen
Me (43) DH(33) 12 years together - ttc our first together-I have 14yr old DS
Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
BETA # 4 30DPO or 25dp5dt = 12,685 6weeks 3days 2 heartbeats! 114 & 116
Clayton and Colton Born @ 34 weeks 11/22/13
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June 4th, 2012, 06:47 PM
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I don't think your number is really high Gretchen (my doctor mentioned having women she treated who walked in with #s in 20s and higher, which makes levels of 3-4 look pretty good by comparison)....but it is definitely on the very high end of normal and by some doctor's standards higher than optimal. Is your RE the doctor who is taking the wait & see approach or is that your regular doctor? If your RE isn't concerned it's impacting your ovulation, I probably wouldn't treat w/o any other symptoms....but if you haven't discussed with an RE, it's definitely worth mentioning. My doctor tries to keep my level under a 2.0 (i hang out between 1.5-1.8 usually) but i had a LOT of symptoms when my level was a 3.8 including a thyroid so swollen they feared i might have a tumor (but thankfully didn't!).

As far as I know, losing weight doesn't impact thyroid under or over-production...i'm not sure about other natural alternatives (like acupuncture) but I think we still have a board on JM specific to thyroid issues and those ladies might be more educated in other options you could try.

ETA: here's a good article outlining differences in approach on why some doctors are now treating for TSH levels above a 3.0 The TSH Reference Range Wars: What's "Normal?", Who is Wrong, Who is Right...And What Does It All Mean For You and Your Health?
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June 7th, 2012, 07:43 AM
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Thank you Lara,

It is my RE that I am dealing with. So I guess if he isn't concerned and I don't have any side effects at this time, I wont worry about it. Just keep an eye on it. My throat is swollen or anything. I would say the only thing I have noticed is some weight gain, but honestly I think that is from TTCMA and the stress of it and the HOHO's
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Gretchen
Me (43) DH(33) 12 years together - ttc our first together-I have 14yr old DS
Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
BETA # 4 30DPO or 25dp5dt = 12,685 6weeks 3days 2 heartbeats! 114 & 116
Clayton and Colton Born @ 34 weeks 11/22/13
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June 7th, 2012, 07:57 AM
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i've had some weight gain (maybe 10lbs?) since going on & off all these meds too...i'm hoping it's the meds (!!) since that's what i've been mentally blaming, but started a diet this week to try to get back to normal....dieting sux
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June 7th, 2012, 03:41 PM
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Hi! I'm new to this board (& just coming off of a JM break!), but I wanted to mention that I noticed about a year ago that one of my bbs was leaking. I happened to be installing a carseat, leaning over the back seat, and it put pressure on my bbs, so when I stood up, I had a wet spot on my shirt. I was freaked out about it. It still leaks periodically. My prolactin level was fine, and the doctors have told me not to worry about it, as long as it's just clear/milky. That's what they're made to do! So try not to worry!
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