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  #1  
April 3rd, 2013, 11:00 AM
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Hi ladies.
So I know I'm loud and around enough that most of you know all I've done so far.

Small recap for any of the new ladies:
I'm 31. Have 2 kids, 13 and 11. We started trying in spring 2009 for our together baby. We have been to two regular mds, then to OB, then to 'fertility specialist' OB.
I have been tested alot, I'm annovulatory, but there doesn't seem to be any other issues. I tried some natural-y things, lost weight, vitamins, herbal things, nothing worked there.

The fertility specialist guy put me on provera to bring a cycle (it can take 6 or so months for me to get a period normally) and 50 mg of clomid. After he said it wasn't working, I made an appt with a real RE for the end of February. We got pregnant on the second month of clomid, two weeks before my RE appt, so we cancelled it. I'm pretty confident by my charts that I really did ovulate both months on the 50mg.

At 10 weeks, I lost the pregnancy. OB says everything went fine with the D&C, and can start trying again in six weeks in mid May. And he's more than happy to give me clomid and provera.


So what I'm going round and round about is this:
Do I reschedule with the RE? Or just go to my OB?

After we figured it out and got on the clomid, things went very easy, and really fast. So do I need to go ahead with the RE, or just go for the clomid again with the regular OB? (this is the first nice OB I like that I've met in the last few years)

I can't decide. Tom seems to think maybe we should just stick with this guy. He's close, and if I chart, I probly don't really NEED to be monitored because I'll know if I ovulate. (with my charts you can REALLY tell if I ovulate. I also ALWAYS get a period around 15 days after, if I ovulate).
But we've been at this for FOUR years now. (Ironically, our try again date is almost exactly on our 'infertile-aversary') So maybe I should just go to the big guy.
But at this point will they do anything really other than clomid and monitoring??
Just can't decide. What would you ladies do??


Am I horrible and callous for just wanting to move on and go for it again instead of setting it aside a couple months to be sad??
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April 3rd, 2013, 12:28 PM
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I don't blame you for wanting to move on. I would too. It can't hurt to stay with this guy while you wait to get into the RE. Since it's been 4 years, I'd probably try to head to the RE, but since you did finally figure out that things were working on clomid, it can't hurt to do another 2 cycles with your OB.
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April 3rd, 2013, 01:07 PM
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I would probably try the clomid one more time before moving on
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April 3rd, 2013, 02:13 PM
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If you hadn't gotten pg on the clomid, I'd say go to the RE...however, since you did get pg...it couldn't hurt to try clomid a few more times before spending the big bucks at the RE. I think the RE would just suggest either Clomid and IUI or injectibles and IUI. I'm not sure what your Insurance covers (if anything) but I bet that would be the RE's plan of action...maybe call and get some pricing? And if it's something you're not willing to do yet, then go to your OB. HTH!

Best of luck to you!
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April 3rd, 2013, 02:25 PM
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I base everything on age. You are still pretty young. I would give your OB another 3 months because it worked before. Did they have you on the progrestrogen after your BFP?

If after 3 months you don't see BFP - I would get to RE at that time.
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Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
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April 3rd, 2013, 09:59 PM
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I think you are correct in the thought that the RE would do clomid too and basically the same thing.
I would try again with the OB and if it doesn't work then go to the RE who might have more ideas
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April 4th, 2013, 12:47 AM
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I agree with whats been said above.
The first course of action is normally clomid, so if you're getting this already, no need to see an RE just yet.

You could also consider trying femara instead of clomid to counter some of clomid's lining side effects.
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April 4th, 2013, 05:12 AM
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Thank you very much ladies

Gretchen - I wasn't on progesterone, but they tested mine and it was way up there in the normal range at both of my betas and beyond.

Grace - Wouldn't a lining problem result in a much earlier miscarriage? The dr and ultrasound techs didn't see an issue. Is that something they normally look for?
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April 4th, 2013, 07:56 AM
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First, I think if you had lining issues, the embryo wouldn't have implanted at all. I don't think that would've caused your loss.

Second, I'd probably stick with the OB for a couple more cycles and see how that goes, since it worked for you last time.

Third, NO, you are not horrible for wanting to TTC again right away. That's just how some people cope. I'm the exact same way. After my 2nd loss, I initally thought I should take at least 6 months off to grieve, get back into shape, take a mental health break, etc. Then my first post-d&c AF came and I was like "nevermind, we are trying again NOW." For me, my emotions are the worst when I'm doing nothing. I need to always be proactively moving forward, with some goal in mind. So TTC for me was the best way to move past my loss. I knew that as long as we were still trying, I could have hope. I had something to look forward to (as scary as TTC after a loss was). So maybe you're the same way. Just because you want to keep moving forward doesn't mean you don't miss or love the baby you lost.
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April 4th, 2013, 08:45 AM
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I agree with what Gretchen wrote. Best of luck to you!!!
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April 4th, 2013, 09:01 AM
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if your not worried with the monitoring aspect, then sticking with your OB might be ok.

My cousin is an OB/GYN and before we sought out MA, we sent him all of our tests we had done to get his opinion. He suggested not going through the OB for MA. To paraphrase him, he basically said, that his job isnt to monitor a fertility cycle. things as simple being available 24/7 essentially for MA isnt part of what he does. Now, he did say that some OBGYN are more actively involved in MA, but for the best results I needed to go to RE. He then found the one that we use now.

Hope those thoughts help you figure out the best path for you!
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April 4th, 2013, 11:29 AM
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You are not horrible and callous. Period.

You're allowed to deal with grief in any way that you see fit. There is no normal when it comes down to it.. especially for mothers.

All that aside.. I think going the way you are may be fine. An RE in the future may be helpful but I don't know how much. I guess it depends on what you're planning to do. For me, I'm being monitored by an OB that works in a clinic that specializes in fertility issues. We're kinda floating along til next year. Next year, if DH is out of the army, we're going back to an RE and going for IVF.

Regardless - hoping and praying you get a sticky bean soon!!!
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April 4th, 2013, 03:49 PM
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Had my followup appointment today.
All is fine. I healed great, nothing looked wrong.

I'm cleared to start clomid cycles again in May. I think I will stay with this guy for now. I know why I like him so much, it's because he asks me what I want to do, and tells me options. Instead of telling me that I have to do something and acting like I have to because he's the doctor/god. I like deciding on what I want to do with my own body
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April 4th, 2013, 03:57 PM
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Thank you again for all the love and support and suggestions. I love my TTCMA sisters


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Third, NO, you are not horrible for wanting to TTC again right away. That's just how some people cope. I'm the exact same way. After my 2nd loss, I initally thought I should take at least 6 months off to grieve, get back into shape, take a mental health break, etc. Then my first post-d&c AF came and I was like "nevermind, we are trying again NOW." For me, my emotions are the worst when I'm doing nothing. I need to always be proactively moving forward, with some goal in mind. So TTC for me was the best way to move past my loss. I knew that as long as we were still trying, I could have hope. I had something to look forward to (as scary as TTC after a loss was). So maybe you're the same way. Just because you want to keep moving forward doesn't mean you don't miss or love the baby you lost.
Thank you. That's exactly how I feel.

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You are not horrible and callous. Period.

You're allowed to deal with grief in any way that you see fit. There is no normal when it comes down to it.. especially for mothers.
....
Regardless - hoping and praying you get a sticky bean soon!!!
Thank you
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April 4th, 2013, 04:00 PM
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I like the sound of your Dr....I think you've made the right decision!
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April 4th, 2013, 05:45 PM
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I like your doc too
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April 4th, 2013, 06:48 PM
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May will be here before you know it. I am glad you are all cleared to TTCMA again!
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Me (43) DH(33) 12 years together - ttc our first together-I have 14yr old DS
Cycles 1-6 = BFN
Cycle 7 SA results abnormal morphology 2%, 50 mg clomid = BFN
Cycle 8 sonogram normal 50 mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 9 SA results abnormal morphology and motility. Count 200 mill, 100mg clomid + trigger = BFN
Cycle 10 natural = BFN
Cycle 11 hsg tubes clear, natural + trigger+IUI = BFN
Cycle 12 repronex + trigger + 2 IUI = BFN
Cycle 13 natural ovaries to stimulated for more meds = BFN
Cycle 14-22 natural cycle with Acupuncture and planning ivf/icsi/DE = ALL BFN
Cycle 23 Clomid 50 mg & Progesterone = BFN
Cycle 24 Natural = BFN
Cycle 25 BCP, SA result 7% morphology = BFN
Cycle 26 BCP and Lupron preparing for IVF
Cycle 27 IVF Acupuncture, DE Retrieval April 7, Transfer April 12 =
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, 2 transferred - zero snow babies
BETA # 1 16DPO or 11dp5dt = 569
BETA # 2 19 DPO or 14dp5dt = 1078
BETA # 3 22DPO or 17dp5dt = 2414 TWINS!
BETA # 4 30DPO or 25dp5dt = 12,685 6weeks 3days 2 heartbeats! 114 & 116
Clayton and Colton Born @ 34 weeks 11/22/13
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