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  #41  
July 21st, 2013, 12:42 PM
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I thought Jessica was just trying to point out why you wouldn't want twins so you aren't as disappointed should another not show up next week Like trying to ease the blow/disappointment? *shrug* Maybe I'm wrong?
I know I am preparing for twins (with transferring two and just a gut feeling) and I will be disappointed at least a little if there are not so I will probably read her post to try and make myself feel a little better. Try to think of all the reasons I don't want twins so it's not yet another blow in the TTCMA journey y/k?
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July 21st, 2013, 02:51 PM
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Lucy, I see what you're saying and can understand that point of view. May be I'm just super hormonal. I don't think that Jessica meant any disrespect or harm. I was simply trying to point out that I've had a very long journey and I'm allowed to feel disappointed, as pointed out by other ladies on here. Until you've done ivf, seen the embryos, put the picture of the embryos in a frame on your dresser bc you're so in love with those babies, and then finally (after numerous bfns after seeing and loving embryos that you swore were going to be your babies) get pregnant knowing that you transferred two...others shouldn't be questioning how I'll ever fly on a plane or go food shopping.
I do appreciate the point of view that she's trying not to get my hopes up. Believe me, I really am happy to be pregnant with one or two. I just need JM support for whatever happens not telling me that breastfeeding and vaginal birth aren't options for me anymore.
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July 21st, 2013, 04:03 PM
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I agree with Lucy but I also believe Jessica could have perhaps worded it better.

This is an incredibly emotional time and while no one should pussyfoot around each other, we should be considerate of their situations and be supportive regardless of what our own personal opinions are. Everyone is allowed to feel however they feel. That's what makes us human and such an amazing board!!
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July 21st, 2013, 09:38 PM
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Its also key to measure context. Had this been a general thread about "what would you do" asking for input from each member how they personally feel about twins, sure, announce that you think they could be a nightmare to YOU.

However. In a personal thread in which the OP already is processing possible sadness and grief, its NEVER ok to invalidate that grief. Its her thread. Until she's asking for reasons to boost her up about this or that, the truth is that for now she's holding hope for twins. And that should be supported

Maybe I'm sensitive to this topic in general but grief should always be validated. Telling someone why a loss is good is absolutely never a good idea. And since she transfered two, if one doesn't take, thats a loss to her (and to me of you want my opinion). Don't talk about why that should be celebrated.

I think that the moral of the story is: if an infertile woman is telling you that she's trying to hang on to hope, don't try to take that away from her. Thats about all we have left. Its the equal to "oh you don't want kids, mine are a handful and look at all the things you can do if you stay childfree! Its a blessing really. You don't want this life". We all cringe when we hear that. This is the same.
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July 22nd, 2013, 12:06 AM
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I agree your numbers are amazing

Hopefully your other baby will make his or her presence known at the next ultrasound- since we all know your numbers make it highly likely, and it's happened maaany times before- and to our own JM girls no less!!!

And for the record, my due date buddy who also had twins in July had hers both vaginally ( I had one vaginally and one c-section) and she is STILL exclusively BF'ing them ( they are almost 1) I was able to BF for 4 months, then pumped until they were 10 months- exclusive breast milk.
So- it does happen. And it was beautiful- never nightmarish.
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July 22nd, 2013, 08:15 AM
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Hi guys,

Big sorry about my earlier post. Definitely did not mean to make anything more stressful than it already is or to knock anyone or point out any bad points. Again, very sorry for my inexpertly worded post.

I had noted in the earlier part of the thread that Mandy seemed disappointed not to be having twins (at least at this point according to the scan). I was trying to point out, very badly done however, a number of reasons why singletons are great and why I personally always hope for a singleton. So Lucy was right in that I was trying to soften the blow of the scan and give her reasons to be feel good about a singleton.

Ugh, boy, I did it badly though! If I had it to write over again I would have phrased it as "great things about singletons" rather than bad things about twins. Or actually, I probably wouldn't have written it at all! So sorry to anyone I offended.

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July 22nd, 2013, 08:17 AM
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July 23rd, 2013, 12:36 AM
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Lucy, I see what you're saying and can understand that point of view. May be I'm just super hormonal. I don't think that Jessica meant any disrespect or harm. I was simply trying to point out that I've had a very long journey and I'm allowed to feel disappointed, as pointed out by other ladies on here. Until you've done ivf, seen the embryos, put the picture of the embryos in a frame on your dresser bc you're so in love with those babies, and then finally (after numerous bfns after seeing and loving embryos that you swore were going to be your babies) get pregnant knowing that you transferred two...others shouldn't be questioning how I'll ever fly on a plane or go food shopping.
I do appreciate the point of view that she's trying not to get my hopes up. Believe me, I really am happy to be pregnant with one or two. I just need JM support for whatever happens not telling me that breastfeeding and vaginal birth aren't options for me anymore.
Aw hun I'm sorry... I don't want to add any stress.
I am not sure how I am going to handle IVF... I am afraid transferring 2 and only one making it will in its own way heartbreaking.
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July 23rd, 2013, 09:30 AM
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I only read the first page the first time I posted...but wanted to say Mandy, that I have two friends that breastfed twins for well over a year and one of those mommas had a vaginal delivery. Nothing is out of the question.

Can't wait to hear about your next appt ((HUGS))!
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July 23rd, 2013, 10:00 AM
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I went to LLL meetings when pregnant and there were plenty of breastfeeding twin mom's there!
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July 23rd, 2013, 02:12 PM
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July 24th, 2013, 03:39 PM
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Is it Friday yet?
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July 25th, 2013, 05:54 AM
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I know right!!! Friday is a big day!
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July 25th, 2013, 07:08 AM
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Tomorrow is it!!!! Can't wait to see what's going on in that tummy of yours!!!
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July 25th, 2013, 01:02 PM
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