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October 27th, 2006, 09:28 AM
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So, I've been mostly on the "Trying To Conceive your First Child" message board, but I got some devastating news today from my doctor, so it looks like I'll be here more often. I thought I'd just introduce myself to you ladies. My name is Eva, I'm 24, and DH and I have only been TTC for 2 months. I was being worked up for PCOS and saw my Dr this morning because we thought I'd be starting Clomid. However, it turns out that DH has the most F***ed up sperm possible. His sperm count was WAY below normal (normal is 40 million, low is considered <20 million, he had 290,000). Even "miracle" stories involved at least 3 million. And the motility was awful too... 70% nonmotile and the rest poorly motile. ANyway, we were told that even with clomid and intrauterine insemination, we'd only have about a 2% chance of conceiving because of how bad his sperm are. So if we ever want to have children, we have to have IVF. I know this isn't the worst thing in the world, and it's great that we found out so early in the game rather than after 10 years of TTC, but I haven't stopped crying all morning. Literally, I've now been crying for about 4 hours straight. None of my friends or family know that we're TTC so I have no one to talk to about all this (DH is at work so he can't really console me right now).

I'm sorry that my first post is so depressing, but I really hope that I get to know you guys and I hope you all have great luck with your TTC journey. I'm going to start my first shots for IVF tonight, so here it goes...
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October 27th, 2006, 09:40 AM
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I am soooooooo sorry to hear that, I know that's gotta be hard on you.....I'm tryin to get my DH to go to the Dr. to get his sperm checked and he refuses (sometimes I just feel like punhing him in his face lol...) I've had all these tests done and everything is perfect, my Dr. even put me on Clomid to speed up the process so let's see what happens, I'm very nervous about the whole thing b/c I have this gut feeling that something is wrong with DH....
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October 27th, 2006, 10:07 AM
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I am soooooooo sorry to hear that, I know that's gotta be hard on you.....I'm tryin to get my DH to go to the Dr. to get his sperm checked and he refuses (sometimes I just feel like punhing him in his face lol...) I've had all these tests done and everything is perfect, my Dr. even put me on Clomid to speed up the process so let's see what happens, I'm very nervous about the whole thing b/c I have this gut feeling that something is wrong with DH....[/b]
How long have you been TTC? I think the reason I've been so upset is because we had no reason to suspect anything was wrong with DH (especially since the reason I even went to see the endocrinologist was because of MY cycle problems). My dr just had DH get a S/A because it's routine, not because we were really having trouble conceiving (we'd only been trying 2 months). It's just so hard when it comes completely unexpectedly like that.

Well, I hope everything goes OK with you guys. And get DH to go get checked!!! It would be a shame to waste time and go through all that Clomid stuff if it won't help.
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I been tryin to conceive for 3-4 months, I know it's very stressful thanks for the advice I really appreciate it I just hope the Clomid does something for me this ttc has me sooooo sad, and I've been having hot flashes and sometimes can't sleep at night...I thought you got the side effects only when you were actually still taking the pills....
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October 27th, 2006, 12:22 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't really know anything about the side effects with Clomid... but I hope that it's worth the trouble! I'm sorry TTC has been so sad for you... we can be sad together WHy won't your DH get checked? Is it just too weird for him?
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Honestly the reason why I think he won't get checked is b/c if something does turn out wrong he'll feel like less of a man ( ya know what I mean?) b/c he has this very manly attitude and a big ego and thinks he is perfect lol but noone is........All he talks about is having a child and he can't wait for me to have his baby and I said if that's the case just go get checked to make sure everything is ok and he said no so I think he's scared that something might be wrong....Even his mother has tried to get him to go, he actually considered it one time and some how the family found out and he didn't go I think he was too embarassed....The worst part is, is that alot of my family recently became prego, like 5 of my cousins and my sister are prego they're all due around March, April, and May and it's soooo depressing when I see them....Especially my sister b/c we go baby shopping and she's like Oh I can't wait for you to have your baby so we can go shopping and all this other stuff and I just bust out crying sometimes....My DH felt bad b/c 2 day we went to Walmart and there was this lady with her new born baby and I just couldn't take my eyes off of them and me and my DH kinda looked at eachother and I busted out crying, I ran to the car, people must've thought I was a freak lol.......
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I can't imagine what you are going through. Welcome to the board. My name is Barb. I have PCOS and I'm on Clomid. I was on 150mg this month, but not even sure I o'd yet. I go in for progesterone test on Monday. Hope everything goes well with the IVF.
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October 29th, 2006, 10:38 AM
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Hi and welcome to the board. There are several ladies including myself on this board that have gone through or are going to go through IVF. If you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to ask. This board is very helpful.

DH and I have been trying for over a year. Before our year was up DH had a sperm count done. The first one came back zero, the others came back very low. They all (except the zero one) came back anywhere from 600,000 to 4 million. He also has poor motility. Our only option is IVF. Basically we were told by the specialist we have a 1 percent chance each month to concieve naturally. I am now waiting for my next AF which should arrive this week. When this happens they are going to run more routine tests on me just to make sure I am fine. By the middle of November I will be starting my Lupron shots and in December I will go through the retrieval and transfer.

Good luck to you.
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October 29th, 2006, 01:10 PM
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Hi and welcome to the board. There are several ladies including myself on this board that have gone through or are going to go through IVF. If you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to ask. This board is very helpful.

DH and I have been trying for over a year. Before our year was up DH had a sperm count done. The first one came back zero, the others came back very low. They all (except the zero one) came back anywhere from 600,000 to 4 million. He also has poor motility. Our only option is IVF. Basically we were told by the specialist we have a 1 percent chance each month to concieve naturally. I am now waiting for my next AF which should arrive this week. When this happens they are going to run more routine tests on me just to make sure I am fine. By the middle of November I will be starting my Lupron shots and in December I will go through the retrieval and transfer.

Good luck to you.[/b]
Thanks JLK! I'm not sure what a sperm count of 200,000 means for our chances, but I know IVF is our only option. I'm just terrified that it's going to go down to zero before we get a chance to finish up this IVF stuff. We're even talking about banking it now before it's completely gone.

I'm starting my first cycle right now, so I'll let you know how it goes.
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Dh is going to give a sample to cryopreserve in the next couple of weeks just in case something goes wrong the day of the transfer. With his count so low we don't want to take any chances. What shot(s) are you taking now?
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October 29th, 2006, 02:34 PM
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You know, I don't even know the name of the shots I'm taking now. They're supposed to over-stimulate my ovaries so that I'll have lots of eggs to harvest. Then once my follicles are a certain size, I'll have to start giving myself some injections to prevent myself from ovulating. Then at some point I induce ovulation. It's so complicated... I just had them tell me one step at a time so I don't get confused.

Now that you mentioned it, maybe I should have DH go preserve some sperm now just in case... but we'll probably be doing the retrieval in about 2 weeks, so maybe it'll be OK waiting until then... what do you think?
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October 29th, 2006, 02:53 PM
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Hmmmm....I would find out from the clinic you are going to. I don't see why you couldn't do it now even if your retrievel is in two weeks. My clinic is having us (if we want to) preserve the sperm a month before the procedure. Maybe there is a reason it has to be done a month before.
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EBS... Welcome to the board, I'm just sorry you're joining us after having gotten such bad news. But, like you said - better to know this now then a few years down the road when maybe even IVF with your DH's sperm would've been out of the question.

I'm one of the IVFers on this board and am here for you if you ever want to just chat or have any questions.

I had to grin to myself when I read your post about how complicated things were right now and only wanted to have your clinic explain one step at a time. I remember feeling that exact same way with my first cycle - it was so overwhelming that I found the best way through it was concentrating on that next step only. You'll do just fine with that approach and the time between now and retrieval will go by before you know it.

I will be thinking lots of positive thoughts for you and keeping everything crossed for you over the next few weeks in hopes of success!
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Chiming in as another IVF'er!
As you can see, we were successful, so there is hope for all of us!

Our situation was actually very similar to yours. Same sperm issues, and I am pretty healthy. Only thing we know of holding me back was one tube is pretty much closed off. Our chances of conveiving on our own are next to zero, which we found out about 3 years ago. (after TTC for a little over a year--me nagging them the whle time that i *knew* there was something wrong-and the dumb doctor "Oh just give it some more time"--pff yah, I was right)
ANYhow, While I hate that you have had to come here, I am so glad for you that you did find out early, as it will save you months and months of heartache and uncertainty. Now at least you know the plan and you are there.
Often when you are dealing with a sperm issue, the clinic will do ICSI, where they pic out good looking sperm and physically inject them into the egg-that is what we had to do. So you still have a chance of getting some great embryos, despite the sperm issues.
I really know how you feel, crying and at such a loss, but I also made sure I kept in mind how hubby must feel about this. Though he was quiet about it, I know he was devistated that he was the only thing standing between me and my dream of being pregnant. That was a hard thing for him. Remember to reassure him that this changes nothing about how you feel for him.
We did not do IVF right away, we had a daughter we needed to bring home, first She's been with us for almost 2 years now, so we figured we may as well try it, just to see what happened--well we were blessed! Times 2! We were one of the lucky ones who took on the first cycle. (I am only 27, so age worked for us--and will give you even better chances, too!)

At any rate, sorry for all the rambling, there, I'm always excited to meet a new IVF'er and I will be keeping everything crossed that your 1st cycle is successful! IM me if you ever have questions, I'm always glad to answer
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November 3rd, 2006, 12:58 PM
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Chiming in as another IVF'er!
As you can see, we were successful, so there is hope for all of us!

We did not do IVF right away, we had a daughter we needed to bring home, first She's been with us for almost 2 years now, so we figured we may as well try it, just to see what happened--well we were blessed! Times 2! We were one of the lucky ones who took on the first cycle. (I am only 27, so age worked for us--and will give you even better chances, too!)[/b]
I'm confused... did you conceive your daughter without IVF?
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