Please Help! Morphology ?

Jessie0505 · #1 June 18th, 2009, 12:46 PM

Hey girls!

i think i told you before that dh has had a couple sa showing he has low morphology (1st one 1% and second 0%) what i was wondering was do we have a good chance with ivf/icsi? ive found a few things online..but it just brings me down..so please do you think i have a chance? thanks in advance ladies!

Hoosier Kitty · #2 June 18th, 2009, 03:30 PM

I'm sorry the results didn't come out what you wanted to hear. have you talked to your doctor about this? IVF/ICSI have pretty great success rates.

~April04~ · #3 June 18th, 2009, 07:17 PM

The only thing I'm thinking of (and don't quote me because this is totally only a thought) - is that low to non-existent morphology might cause higher m/c rates since the sperm aren't formed correctly... but with ICSI they pick out the very best sperm, so I think you'd be OK.

Brandiwine77 · #4 June 19th, 2009, 07:43 AM

I agree with what April said. ICSI would probably be the best bet since they would use the best swimmers and give you the best chance at a bean

Good luck, and KUP!!

lnicolls · #5 June 19th, 2009, 11:17 AM

We had basically the same results. I talked to our RE last week and he said first that 0% doesn't usually mean he actually has NO good sperm. My DH's sample had a handful of good ones that they could pick out to use for ICSI. He also said that even if they are 100% abnormal, this shouldn't be a problem because ICSI bypasses the problems that morphology usually causes (that the sperm can't fertilize the egg naturally). He said that the chance that the DNA in the sperm itself is bad isn't necessarily higher just because they have poor morphology. Hope this helps!

Jessie0505 · #6 June 19th, 2009, 01:23 PM

thanks guys! i called the ivf coordinator to ask her if it was even worth a try..and she said yes! im thinking that since everything else is absoultely perfect that that will help! thanks again ladies..ill def keep you posted..i think we are gonna do the ivf with icsi here in a couple months!! (hopefully sooner!)

#7 June 20th, 2009, 06:20 AM

Just lurking** Hope you don't mind

My DH has poor morphology (LESS than 1%) and we have conceived with the help of Clomid alone

Unfortunately, they were non viable conjoined (which is not caused by Clomid OR poor morph!) and we lost them at 16 weeks gestation.

We have since done IVF with ICSI and got 4 beautiful blastocysts

My fresh ivf transfer was

but we are hopeful that my FET next month will be successful with our two remaining blasts

I'm hoping that the IVF works for you! GOOD LUCK!

Jessie0505 · #8 June 22nd, 2009, 12:07 PM

oh yay! that gives me hope! thanks again girls!

Clare · #9 June 27th, 2009, 12:30 PM

Jessie, we seem to be in the same boat. My Dh has a really low sperm count with poor morphology. We have recently seen our specialist and we will be heading down the IVF with ICSI route - once more testing has been done (Im having an HSG next cycle and Dh has to do 2 more SA).

I wish you lots of luck!

Jessie0505 · #10 June 27th, 2009, 03:21 PM

Well i have good news for you then too! i spoke with my IVF coordinator and she says that when you have icsi it bypasses what morphology has to do with conception!! i wish you the best of luck too..i have high hopes about it all..i wont lie i cried when i found out we needed ivf but now im excited!! good luck and keep me posted!!

BeckyM · #11 June 28th, 2009, 06:35 AM

I wish you ladies the best of luck. If they had found spermies when they did my DH's biopsy we were looking at the same route.

MXmom · #12 June 29th, 2009, 05:54 PM

That was MXdad and I's problem and we are now pregnant through IVF/ICSI, so it does work!

Jessie0505 · #13 June 29th, 2009, 07:04 PM

wow!! that is very nice to know..it gives me hope! was it your first try?

jinwithani · #14 July 10th, 2009, 07:51 AM

We had the same thing. SA showed 0% normal morphology x3 samples and our fertility center recommended IUI first... good thing bc we conceived with the first round of IUI... I am now 27 weeks preg with a perfect baby boy! GL!

Jessie0505 · #15 July 10th, 2009, 12:42 PM

wow!! i was just asking hubby if he wanted to try iui first and he said no..it wont work..and hearing your story..i just wanna call him at work and say it might!! holy cow..i think i wanna try it now!! thanks!!

BeckyM · #16 July 11th, 2009, 02:57 AM

It's so wonderful to hear success stories!!!

*KittyCat* · #17 July 17th, 2009, 03:21 AM

i can only really add what has been said already, but we are looking at having IVF with ICSI. As only one sperm is needed to ferlitize, as the others have said, they will pick the very best formed ones. And as they inject the sperm directly into the egg, morphology is less of an issue because the shape of the sperm no longer matters as it's no longer having to penetrate the egg by itself, which is where the shape and form comes into play.