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September 5th, 2011, 08:36 PM
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The government should have the power to ban names that they deem potentially embarrassing/harmful to a child?

I was reading about New Zealand banning names today and I was curious as to everyone's thoughts?
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September 5th, 2011, 10:29 PM
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Not our government no. But I think that they should be able to put your children on a CPS file if you give them a name that is clearly harmful. However, I'm thinking about names like Adolf Hitler or using curse words as a name.

There's a pretty fine line though, so it should only be used in dire circumstances. There have been several names that I've rolled my eyes at before but they were certainly not harmful. Having the name Adolf Hitler or D-bag could be very harmful to a child.
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September 6th, 2011, 12:50 AM
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Honestly, yes, I think they should be able to.
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September 6th, 2011, 05:05 AM
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I don't want anybody naming their child something horrible but I'm not sure if having the government ban names is the right way to go.
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September 6th, 2011, 07:27 AM
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Ehhh.... I'm gonna say no. I feel like it's a slippery slope. Who gets to say what's "harmful"? Are they going to ban legitimately harmful (whatever that means) names, or will they start banning "stupid" names or "ridiculous" spellings? If we give the government the power to ban us from naming our children certain things, where is the line drawn where they don't have the power anymore? Should we ban overly popular names for a decade or so, so they can fall back down a bit?
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September 6th, 2011, 09:57 AM
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There should be a small list, like Hitler, Bin Laden, swear words but thats it.

Like if someone called their kid B!tch Bin Laden Jones, then yes, the government should be able to stop them
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September 6th, 2011, 10:43 AM
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I'm going to go with yes if there is a legitimate reason, such as being truly harmful or embarrasing to the child. But then it's hard to say who should get to decide on that and would they take it too far. I agree that's a slippery slope. I guess if they could create some kind of short list or rules, I don't know. It's sad parents would ever do that to their child though and we'd have to debate this...
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September 6th, 2011, 12:09 PM
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Ehhh.... I'm gonna say no. I feel like it's a slippery slope. Who gets to say what's "harmful"? Are they going to ban legitimately harmful (whatever that means) names, or will they start banning "stupid" names or "ridiculous" spellings? If we give the government the power to ban us from naming our children certain things, where is the line drawn where they don't have the power anymore? Should we ban overly popular names for a decade or so, so they can fall back down a bit?
I agree with this.

I think though at a certain age a child should be able to change their own name if it's harmful to them even if they're underage.
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September 6th, 2011, 06:23 PM
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Absolutely not.
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September 7th, 2011, 07:47 PM
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No. Are they going to ban puberty, glasses, braces, etc. too?
Because those are potentially embarassing too!
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September 8th, 2011, 06:13 AM
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No. Are they going to ban puberty, glasses, braces, etc. too?
Because those are potentially embarassing too!
banning puberty would cut down A LOT on teenage pregnancy, as well as use of the welfare system.. maybe it's a good idea.




(I was not suggesting teen parents were all on welfare; they were two separate considerations.)
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September 8th, 2011, 07:13 AM
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Good grief. No way. Don't they have more important things to worry about and couldn't the resources devoted to this be better spent on say... children that are actually abused? Unless the government births the baby, I can't see how they have any right to tell me what to name my child.
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September 8th, 2011, 07:43 AM
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I am kinda of the opinion that swear words should be disallowed, but that's it. But who in the government gets to make these decision? As said above, it's such a slippery slope.
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September 8th, 2011, 07:54 AM
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If you read what names are actually banned in New Zealand, this starts to make a little more sense.

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The list of weird names for kids that are banned by New Zealand’s names registrar has grown to include Lucifer, Duke, Messiah and 89.

Also not approved: Bishop, Baron, General, Judge, King, Knight and Mr., names that were all said to be too similar to titles.

The letters, C, D, I and T were also rejected as first names, the Herald Sun says.
As well, the agency has refused to allow names involving asterisks, commas, periods and other punctuation marks.

And three different sets of Kiwi parents wanted to name their children Lucifer, only to have the name choice nixed.
And in Sweden:

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In Sweden, name choices are subject to a naming law. While Lego and Google have been approved as names for children, Superman, Metallica and Elvis, and the name Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, pronounced Albin, were not approved.
So it's not like they are banning REAL names, except some of the titles (I know a little boy named Derek Judge, but Mr. is pretty bad). No one's banned Adolph, Brittany, James Tiberius Kirk, or Cyborg. Elvis is a stretch.
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September 8th, 2011, 11:40 AM
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Lol, I taught about 3 kids named Messiah.
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September 8th, 2011, 12:34 PM
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My favorite from the list is definitely Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. It encompasses almost all that is wrong with baby naming trends these days, lol.
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September 8th, 2011, 12:52 PM
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My favorite from the list is definitely Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. It encompasses almost all that is wrong with baby naming trends these days, lol.
Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116, pronounced Albin is just something they did to grab attention or something. That's really horrible. I can see why they would ban that.
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September 8th, 2011, 12:59 PM
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Or they were trying to make a point.
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September 8th, 2011, 01:20 PM
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I don't think all those names should have been banned. Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 however is clearly not really a name, more like a joke [though imagine the poor kid learning to spell his name...]

Though they are weird names, I don't see the big deal.

But no I don't think the government has a right to decide what you can and can't name a child. Though I do think a child should have the right to TRY to change his name before 18, just as a safeguard from thoughtless parents. However if Bobby is trying to change his name to, say, Superman, at age 8...well it should be denied obviously. Just the opposite though, why not?
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September 9th, 2011, 06:05 PM
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In countries where titles are actually used, it kind of makes sense to ban them as names.. sort of. I mean, it's the equivalent of an American kid being named Senator, Congressman, or President. Probably not going to have tragic results, but maybe a little inappropriate. In American, we don't have Dukes, Kings, or Duchesses, so it doesn't seem as "bad."

Sometimes I wish I could make a list of approved names for people to choose from, just because I get frustrated with some parents sometimes, but a legal ban..?
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