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August 23rd, 2006, 03:01 PM
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Some things to consider if you are thinking of naming your child after his father...

One study suggests that doing so may lead to heightened parental identification, frustration, conflict, and even aggression. Among children battered by parents, a higher percentage than would be caused by chance were named after one of the parents. (Lenoski, 1981) (number of subjects unknown)

A boy may be given his father's name plus "Jr." out of the father's wish to perpetuate himself in his son, to have his son emulate him, or to retain a superior role himself. The son may feel this as a burden laid upon him: to comply with paternal desires and to mold his personality and career accordingly. The "Hamlet hypothesis" suggests--though there is no proof one way or the other--that this may aggravate the natural conflict between father and son.

About 3% of all men are Jr.'s, yet Jr.'s made up 10% of the psychiatric outpatients at one studied facility--three times more than their proportion in the general population. (The "Jr." patients were divided evenly among race and age, so those were not relevant factors.) (285 subjects) (Plank, 1971)

Students with names ending in "II" scored higher on capacity for status, well-being, responsibility, socialization, self-control, and tolerance than those with names ending in "Jr." (Zweigenhaft, Hayes & Haagen, 1980) (196 subjects)
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August 23rd, 2006, 03:21 PM
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That's very interesting. My brother was named after my Dad and it is very confusing. You never know who people are calling for (when my brother still lived at home) and their mail always gets messed up. The whole Jr. or II never appealed to me and luckily dh agreed. We believe that our kids should have their own name. If we have another boy though he will share dh's middle name.
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August 23rd, 2006, 03:35 PM
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It's interesting to me that they blame the naming of the boy on the father. In many real-life cases I've seen, the MOTHER demands to name the boy after his father, even if they are not legally married, and even if he already has a son named after him by another mother!

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August 23rd, 2006, 04:39 PM
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If we have a son, we already decided we won't name him after my DH.
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August 23rd, 2006, 05:16 PM
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It's interesting to me that they blame the naming of the boy on the father. In many real-life cases I've seen, the MOTHER demands to name the boy after his father, even if they are not legally married, and even if he already has a son named after him by another mother!

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That's interesting too. I wouldn't want to name my child after my partner - I like choosing my baby's name, it would take the fun out of it (for me) to just follow a tradition.
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August 24th, 2006, 09:18 AM
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My dh is a "jr" and I hate it. If we have a son he will have his dad's name as a middle name but only because I got to give my dd my best friend's name as a middle name. I'll probably try to convince him to give him a different middle name but we'll see.
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If we ever have a boy he will get Rob's middle name as his middle name, I don't think we would do the Jr thing.
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August 27th, 2006, 08:03 AM
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Very interesting, My DF is named after his father, lol. We plan on giving our first son his name Stephen Patrick as his mn, but I couldnt deal with having 2 Stephen's in the house, it would confuse me and them too much
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