Log In Sign Up

Soy for dogs


Forum: Pet Owners and Animal Lovers

Notices

Welcome to the JustMommies Message Boards.

We pride ourselves on having the friendliest and most welcoming forums for moms and moms to be! Please take a moment and register for free so you can be a part of our growing community of mothers. If you have any problems registering please drop an email to boards@justmommies.com.

Our community is moderated by our moderation team so you won't see spam or offensive messages posted on our forums. Each of our message boards is hosted by JustMommies hosts, whose names are listed at the top each board. We hope you find our message boards friendly, helpful, and fun to be on!

Reply Post New Topic
  Subscribe To Pet Owners and Animal Lovers LinkBack Topic Tools Search this Topic Display Modes
  #1  
February 24th, 2010, 08:54 AM
broxi3781's Avatar Mega Super Mommy
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: belfast, northern ireland
Posts: 1,563
Hi I know soy isnt the best for dogs but cant remember all the reasons why not. Most dogs here eat a good amount of people food, mine included, but for most of us who eat a typical diet, its meats, veggies, some breads or cereals etc... with some extras like a big bone from the butchers, some tripe or kidney and so on thrown in. My MIL eats alot of diet foods though and in large part uses lower calorie meat subsitutes, mostly soy, and has the dog on that as its primary food.
Maybe i should just mind my own business, but if I could rememeber why dogs werent meant to eat soy i might try to casually mention it.
Any ideas anyone?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
February 24th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Platinum Supermommy
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 7,429
Because dogs are carnivores, they need meat, organs, bones, and the correct phosphorus and calcium ratios that come from that. Soy is a plant based protein and therefore not the proper diet for a dog who, again, is a carnivore. It is also a very common allergen for many dogs.

I completely support homemade or raw feeding in dogs and it's great your mother-in-law has chosen a more vegetarian diet for herself, however her dog(s) really need meat based protein in order to have a healthy proper diet. She can always purchase meat, bones, etc from a local butcher just for the dog and simply not eat it herself.

Vegetarian diets should only be given under very unusual circumstances (usually when a chronic illness is involved) and with the guidance and help of a nutritionist so that the dog's body does not suffer due to lack of protein, calcium, or phosphorus.

Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
February 25th, 2010, 04:47 AM
broxi3781's Avatar Mega Super Mommy
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: belfast, northern ireland
Posts: 1,563
Thanks,
I've been reading up on it a bit more myself and found liver damage and many allergies can be caused by soy. I know the typical dogs diet here would make most American dog owners cringe. Most eat in large part what the people do and premium foods like Iams or Purina Pro plan cost more then good quality meats anyway. I think MIL is concerned about the dogs weight so using the lower cal meat subsitutes, but I'd rather go with meat and just less of it if needed. she does cook meat anyway for BIL who likes real food like the rest of us
My dogs are always the opposite though, no matter what I feed they tend to be on the lean side. Partially because I like playful active dogs, and partially because I think excercise is the cure for all doggy ills and go a bit overboard with it. I do feed more fats then would generally be advised but most of our vets as well as several breeders have told us to just keep doing what we are doing, as it seems to work well. They arent too terribley thin anyway, usually right at breed standard, its just most staffies now go over breed standard in weight.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
February 25th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Platinum Supermommy
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 7,429
That's very weird that you found it can cause liver damage as soy and soy based products are very often recommended for dogs who have full blown liver disease since it doesn't produce ammonia that makes the issue worse.

My dog was on soy milk among other simple proteins when he had liver disease at the recommendation of not only a veterinary specialist but also a canin nutrition specialist (she specialized in special diets for sick dogs).

Not saying it isn't true, but I have a hard time wrapping my brain around that one, especially considering my dog did recover from liver disease on a diet that included soy.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
February 26th, 2010, 07:04 AM
broxi3781's Avatar Mega Super Mommy
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: belfast, northern ireland
Posts: 1,563
It could well be the site I was reading was incorrect, as it was very much against processed foods etc...
all the same I dont see mahy wolves, dingos or coyotes popping out for a tofu burger, I think meat should be a basic part of dog food for most pets
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
February 26th, 2010, 07:55 AM
Platinum Supermommy
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 7,429
ROLMAO!! ITA. Never feed my dogs soy, unless it was for liver disease and was necessary, but I might also add that small amounts of chicken turkey, eggs, cottage cheese were also part of his diet, and once he recovered from the liver disease he was back on a normal diet, so it was also only temporary (about 4 months), definitely not for a lifetime by any means.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Topic Tools Search this Topic
Search this Topic:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:17 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0