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May 1st, 2009, 03:10 PM
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I've been going nuts. lol.
I read the no cry sleep solution, and tried to put some routine into our lives, and failed miserably... and possibly made things even worse.
Maica is refusing to sleep, she won't nap, she gets to the point where she asks for milk because shes tired and then changes her mind and shakes her head no because she knows shes going to fall asleep.
to get her to nap i'm having to walk her in the sling or take her out in the car.if she doesn't nap she has a mid afternoon dip of crankiness.

But then when she does nap it makes bedtime all the more impossible, i tried a bath, book, milk/sleep routine and it did nothing for us, she just threw enormous tantrums because shes not ready to sleep yet. this resulted in tears from me, of frustration and sadness, when she finally fed to sleep, or giving up and letting her play til later.

shes finaly ready to sleep about 9.30 which is just hard for me because i have no time to myself or with DH. If she doesn't nap its not much better either, 8pm she'll go down, ideally i'd want her to sleep at 7 and nap if possible!
I tried getting her up earlier but she still refuses to nap earlier then crashes out at 3, making bedtime difficult.

i just don't know what to do! do i just face that i can't have time out in the evening anymore?
should i do the bath routine later to match the time shes going to sleep naturally?
someone give me the answers!!
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May 1st, 2009, 05:14 PM
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I don't know if you can get a straight answer! I can tell you that we went through the SAME thing. Sometimes scheds don't work and you end up following your kid for awhile, but it all evens out eventually.

Maybe try letting her stay up until 9:30 for awhile will get her out of the habit of fighting to go to bed and then move it back to the earlier time 15 minutes at a time?
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May 1st, 2009, 06:26 PM
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Anastasia honestly didn't sleep for the first TWO years of her life. Chris and I went with her flow, and a few months ago she started going to sleep on her own, at 7/8 pm without any fussing. She just needed time.
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May 1st, 2009, 06:43 PM
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The transition time from napping to not napping is tough. I kept my oldest daughter napping until 3 1/2 by taking her for a "little drive" every afternoon. She'd fall asleep after 5 mins or so and stay asleep while I carried her up to her bed. It worked great for us.

She was going to bed around 9 pm then. Now that she's not napping she's almost always asleep before 8 pm.
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May 1st, 2009, 09:39 PM
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I've been going nuts. lol.
I read the no cry sleep solution, and tried to put some routine into our lives, and failed miserably... and possibly made things even worse.
Maica is refusing to sleep, she won't nap, she gets to the point where she asks for milk because shes tired and then changes her mind and shakes her head no because she knows shes going to fall asleep.
to get her to nap i'm having to walk her in the sling or take her out in the car.if she doesn't nap she has a mid afternoon dip of crankiness.

But then when she does nap it makes bedtime all the more impossible, i tried a bath, book, milk/sleep routine and it did nothing for us, she just threw enormous tantrums because shes not ready to sleep yet. this resulted in tears from me, of frustration and sadness, when she finally fed to sleep, or giving up and letting her play til later.

shes finaly ready to sleep about 9.30 which is just hard for me because i have no time to myself or with DH. If she doesn't nap its not much better either, 8pm she'll go down, ideally i'd want her to sleep at 7 and nap if possible!
I tried getting her up earlier but she still refuses to nap earlier then crashes out at 3, making bedtime difficult.

i just don't know what to do! do i just face that i can't have time out in the evening anymore?
should i do the bath routine later to match the time shes going to sleep naturally?
someone give me the answers!!


I'm going to be honest.. I don't like the No-Cry Sleep solutions books. To me, they are like baby-training books. I only recommend them to people who are so stressed they are ready to CIO. I read the No-Cry Sleep solution for Toddlers and the amount of sleep she recommends is not correct for my girl. Our LO's are pretty close in age. Right now dd is only getting 9 hours sleep at night and not the 12-14 hours that book recommends. My dh came across a website that confirmed it's actually quite normal for this age to NOT be getting as much sleep as we've been told. Samantha's naps have changed so much we were (at first) a bit concerned. I truly think it's a small phase where she might only sleep 9-10 hours for 3 days in a row then sleep a good 12 hours for one night then go back to 9 hours.. Go with the flow and trust yourself on this one with adjusting your bathtime/bedtime rountine. There are days she misses her bathtime and goes straight to bed because I can tell it's time for her to rest, even though we didn't do the bath. We just have a bath the next morning.


As for the personal time? Yeah.. I hear ya. I'm not keeping up with the board I host as well as I want to be and I'm barely getting enough time to go potty. It's not easy.. I'm trying to put things in perspective ~ it's only a few weeks.. and I know it's not going to be like this forever. I try tools like allowing myself to read and mediate through this crazy nursing phase. Dh is trying but it's hard on her and him when she is upset. I jump in the tub with her so I stay clean..



Keep us updated as you have time ~ good luck hon.

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May 2nd, 2009, 04:24 AM
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9:30, LOL if my Billy was going to sleep at 10:30 I'd be dancing in the streets. I've just come to accept some children need less sleep then others, just as some adults do. If its any comfort, these people generally are quite succesful as adults, such as Winston churchill and Margaret thatcher.
I know its hard, but eventually they need you less when they are awake and you get a bit more time to yourselves. Wish i could be more help, but if I did have any great solutions I'd be using them myself! The only thing I have found to really help is as much exercise as possible. Wish I could get a giant hamster wheel, LOL.
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May 2nd, 2009, 06:08 AM
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My son is a lot younger but we just follow the schedule his body tells him. "Most" days he takes a really good nap in the afternoon and then goes to bed at a somewhat okay time. IT has been hard since I am so exhausted from being pregnant and taking meds to stop stupid contractions.

I just let him play until he is tried. If I try to get him to sleep then he just gets upset and then that will delay the sleep even longer.

A few times lately he has cuddled up next to my dog and passed out. lol...Cute but funny!

I don't think we will be setting a bed time until the kids are older and getting ready for school.
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May 2nd, 2009, 06:34 AM
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How long have you followed the structured routine?
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May 2nd, 2009, 02:10 PM
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I lasted two days on the structured routine, longer with the bath/bed thing but shes not going to bed when it comes to it anyway.
I only lasted 2 days with the routine because it wasn't fair to let her get into such a state, she wasn't ready to sleep like the book said, so it wasn't worth the crying(even in arms....shes still cryin when she needn't be)
Protesting crying is okay, i can cope with it with the boob, but distress crying is not okay in my book, i just sat there thinking why the hell am i doing this to her? when she could have been happily playing. i think it was those two days that have made her not want to sleep at all.
i'm going to start putting her to bed later i think once shes settled in going to bed then i'll bring it forward slowly.
I'm just finding this bit so hard, shes the sweetest thing on the earth in the day, but when it comes to sleep shes not happy... which in addition wears me out further and i get no break because its time for bed for me again! i wish i could get a balance!
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