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May 12th, 2009, 08:30 AM
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Let your baby drink formula made from Chimpanzee milk if you couldnt breastfeed and their was a safe and humane way for it to be collected? Such as teach the chimp to use a breast pump?
I know silly question, but just wondering. It would seem a bit too unnatural to me, but cows milk seems natural. So it seems to me "natural" is just what is acceptable or average for your culture. Scientifically, I would have to assume chimpanzee milk would be a closer match for a human infant, it would just seem odd.
What do you think?
BTW I got this idea from meredith Small's book. She says barring human milk chimp milk would be the next closest. She isnt a big fan of cow's milk for human babies,
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May 12th, 2009, 09:36 AM
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May 12th, 2009, 11:23 AM
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I'd do it.
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May 12th, 2009, 11:24 AM
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probably not...but I know that they say goats milk is formulated closer to human milk than cows milk is
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We aren't to give a baby milk, berries, or peanut butter. We are to introduce new foods one at a time. But it's OK to inject several viruses, bacteria, aluminum, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol, animal serum, mercury, squalene and more into an 8 week old? I don't think so.
In order to be healthy it is an unfortunate fact that people must be allowed the opportunity to be ill. I trust my body and those of my children to work correctly against the relatively benign diseases they vax for, and do not trust the ingredients in the vaccinations.
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May 12th, 2009, 12:53 PM
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I think so. I suspect the only reason cow milk is used as a base is because it is readily available and comparatively cheap, plus we're all used to drinking it so it's "acceptable".
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I don't think I would.... but who knows. At first my thought was no way! But then when you mentioned cow's milk.... hmmm... I am not sure what I would do if it was available and I was unable
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I'd do it. I think it's silly that cow's seem to be thought of as the only animals with milk we can drink.

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May 12th, 2009, 02:10 PM
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I've read in several sources that gorilla's milk is actually the closest. I imagine chimpanzee milk would be very similar to gorilla's milk.

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probably not...but I know that they say goats milk is formulated closer to human milk than cows milk is
I discussed this at length with my doctor. She said that she was on the goat's milk train for quite a while, and devoted quite a bit of research to the matter. She said while it is a bit more similar than cow's milk, it is still highly deficient in several important components. I also remember reading that back in the days of orphanages, they fed goat's milk to infants without much success. Those infants were malnourished, failure to thrive, and had poor immune systems. The death rate of abandoned and orphaned infants rose drastically when goat's milk was introduced. This is from Milk, Money and Madness.

Although, my doctor was very willing to help me get goats milk formula for Jonah if that is what I desired, she just didn't advise it given her own research on the matter.
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May 12th, 2009, 05:48 PM
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I was raised on goats milk....it saved my life.... I had failure to thrive before the goats milk!!!

My son will be getting goats milk instead of cows milk.
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May 12th, 2009, 08:53 PM
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That's an interesting thought...idk. I have thought about goat's milk, though. Logan doesn't drink anything but mommy milk right now but as for the future it'll be organic cow's milk at the least.
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May 13th, 2009, 07:58 AM
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I've had goats millk too, its really quite similar to cows milk but it is short in certain nutrients as Jess mentioned. Its ok once a child is eating more solids, but dont think it would be the ebst for newborns. That said when my brother and I were young, my mother breastfed until we started cereals at 2 months, then we went straight to cows milk. My brother got quite ill with this but did fine with goats milk, but then he would have gotten the extra iron etc from cereal.
On the chimp milk idea, or gorillas for that matter, what i was thinking is many of us would have a problem because it just seems so weird. So I suppose that is the way many people here feel about breastfeeding, its been suppressed for so long, it now seems unatural.
The thing is as odd as I'd find the idea of chimp milk, it wouldnt annoy me at all if it were proven healthier for babies and another mother wanted to use it, so i still dont quite get the hostility towards breastfeeding many people have. If it isnt their child, and it obviously isnt harming a child, why should they care?
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May 13th, 2009, 05:29 PM
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May 14th, 2009, 03:13 AM
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How about horse, camel or yak? I have to admit they all seem a bit odd to me as well, but of course they are normal to drink in other parts of the world.
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May 14th, 2009, 06:48 AM
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^^Nope, not them either. And I honestly don't think I could even do goat's milk.
I guess I'm just so used to our culture and it's "not the norm." It's too hard to even imagine, IMO. I just like my cow's milk too much. I myself can drink a gallon a day.
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May 14th, 2009, 01:21 PM
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How about horse, camel or yak? I have to admit they all seem a bit odd to me as well, but of course they are normal to drink in other parts of the world.
Yak's milk isn't really too bad
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May 14th, 2009, 01:31 PM
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Chimps with a pump Oh my what a visual!!! All I can think of is Meet the Faulkers where Robert DeNiro says "I have nipples. Can you milk me?" :rofla:

I think I would let my child have monkey milk. Why not. We are very close in genetic make up. Plus I drink cow's milk and I am not a baby cow.
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May 14th, 2009, 08:19 PM
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I've read in several sources that gorilla's milk is actually the closest. I imagine chimpanzee milk would be very similar to gorilla's milk.



I discussed this at length with my doctor. She said that she was on the goat's milk train for quite a while, and devoted quite a bit of research to the matter. She said while it is a bit more similar than cow's milk, it is still highly deficient in several important components. I also remember reading that back in the days of orphanages, they fed goat's milk to infants without much success. Those infants were malnourished, failure to thrive, and had poor immune systems. The death rate of abandoned and orphaned infants rose drastically when goat's milk was introduced. This is from Milk, Money and Madness.

Although, my doctor was very willing to help me get goats milk formula for Jonah if that is what I desired, she just didn't advise it given her own research on the matter.
Great nugget of info there. Thanks. I gave goats milk to my son a while trying to find somethign that suited him (I didn't BF this long with him) and it was fine for him. Though I think we were giving him vitamins as well. I think they say it's closer to the make up mostly cause it digests easier than cows milk does for infants moreso than it's better nutritionally.

Bottom line...it's better for babies to have human milk LOL...
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We aren't to give a baby milk, berries, or peanut butter. We are to introduce new foods one at a time. But it's OK to inject several viruses, bacteria, aluminum, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol, animal serum, mercury, squalene and more into an 8 week old? I don't think so.
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What a post!!

I would like to think that if this situation arose I would not mind but who knows in the actual situation. I have been trying to get myself even over the rice milk vs cows milk in my cereal lol.
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