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Cheryl_W March 29th, 2010 02:38 PM

When you discovered the truth...
 
... were you angry? I'm finding myself getting more and more angry the more research I do... And I mean REALLY angry - DH's cousin said something to me the other day and I almost went up one side of her and down the other.

Like, for example, epidurals. They're routine, and safe - at least, that is what they say. Oh, but what is this?

Phentenol, the drug used in epidurals, is an opiate 100 times more powerful than morphine and 300 times stronger than heroin. It is given in a dose that, if given directly to your child, would cause severe brain damage IF it didn't kill them. And for up to 6 weeks following the birth, because your baby's liver can't process the complex chemicals, they'll exhibit the signs of heroin or morphine use.

Say WHAT?!?!?

Or the Group B Strep test and IV antibiotics given to 1 in 3 women. Only 1 in 12000 babies will be born with the condition, and it is rare for a baby who wasn't subjected to the IV antibiotics to be untreated after a simple course of their OWN antibiotics? But it can cause fatal superbugs and allergic reactions in mommies who are allergic to penicillin, like me. Mhmmm...

Am I the only one who is getting angry that I was never told any of this? Am I just over reacting, or is it crazy that women out there get shunned and scolded for a sip of red wine during pregnancy, but high doses of morphine or phentenol during labor are perfectly acceptable?

Should the public not be more aware of the real risks and side effects of these things, and instead of condemning mommies who smoke or take a sip of beer or drive down a bumpy road, start making it more known that vaccines, routine GBS IV antibiotics, routine epidurals and other drugs are MORE dangerous and cause MORE harm???

I'm sorry, I've tried to quit smoking - and every time I do, I vomit NONSTOP until I have a ciggarette. Not even kidding. Vomiting for hours on end, unable to even keep water down, until I smoke. I've had friends and family GIVING me cigarettes because they want me to stop throwing up.

And I get chastised for choosing FOOD for my baby over quitting smoking, by the very same women who will think nothing of getting a big ol' shot of morphine (essentially medicinal heroin) in the *** during their labor, as many times as they ask for it.

Isn't something wrong here????

Twinkle March 29th, 2010 04:59 PM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
I get angry at times as well... I go back and forth with being angry at women for NOT researching their options and taking responsibility for their choices... then I get angry at the Doctors and care providers for not educating their patients about these risks and making all these interventions so routine.

Sk8ermaiden March 29th, 2010 07:28 PM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
Yes, it pisses me off to no end.

inyourhonor March 29th, 2010 07:55 PM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twinkle (Post 19621286)
i get angry at times as well... I go back and forth with being angry at women for not researching their options and taking responsibility for their choices... Then i get angry at the doctors and care providers for not educating their patients about these risks and making all these interventions so routine.

ditto ditto ditto!

flitabout March 30th, 2010 08:38 AM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
I agree! Do you mind it if I post this on my ddc?

Cheryl_W March 30th, 2010 11:41 AM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
Wow definitely not, I don't mind at all. It was just some thoughts I was having after said run-in with DH's cousin... I couldn't decide who to be more angry at - her, for not doing her OWN homework and finding out the truth, or the doctors for not telling anyone the truth.

I'm glad I'm not alone in the anger thing, I was starting to feel bad about wanting to lash out sometimes LOL

soImarriedAnerd March 30th, 2010 09:23 PM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
I quit working on a Labor and delivery unit because I would get to pissed off at the DRs and many of the other nurses. So I'm right there with you!

crazytown March 31st, 2010 06:52 AM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
My poor DS had abx during his totally managed hospital birth. The worst part was I knew better, I just got caught off guard with GBS+ and went into labor that same week with my water breaking. I feel SO BADLY about his birth :(

His sister however, was born 100% naturally at home so at least I got that one right!

HappyHippy March 31st, 2010 07:10 AM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
Yup I get angry. I get angry at Doctors for not fully informing women, at them for doing things behind women's backs and using them as guinea pigs, and I get mad at them for not respecting the wishes of women. I do get mad at women sometimes for not doing research, but then I find it hard to fully get mad at them since there are so many conflicting research on a lot of things and it's hard to tell who is telling the truth sometimes. I understand wanting to trust your Doctor, but you also have to trust yourself.

Isaeph March 31st, 2010 08:41 AM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
I totally agree with Twinkle. And I get mad at mothers, MILs, and other older "trusted" women who belittle the young mothers TRYING to do the best thing and make educated decisions.

Nightkd March 31st, 2010 10:14 AM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
Yeah, I get angry. I start ranting at DH/the TV seeing women being pumped full of drugs they don't need and put into positions that make it harder for them to birth, before being told that they 'need' a C-Section because they've been in labour for over 8 hours(!!!) now....

I'm from the UK too, so some of the 'routine' things over here make me even more shocked and angry.

x

Mom.to.PinknBlue March 31st, 2010 11:55 AM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
totally jumping in my from my DDC, but I agree with you. This does make me angry. Women need to do their own research to make an informed decision. And not trust what a doctor is telling them.

sodagirl March 31st, 2010 03:54 PM

Re: When you discovered the truth...
 
ditto.
and people are TERRIBLE at understanding risk. Like - flying - really extreemly low risk. - basically anything that makes the news is super low risk. sigh.


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