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Mommy2Dakota May 22nd, 2009 12:41 AM

Urgh!
 
Had a big temp dip today. And it was taken correctly so suggests AF coming today (had some cramps too today and yesterday) but if it does come today then that puts my luteal phase on the short side again! :brickwall: Today is 8dpo.

However I am untrusting of my themometre! I've been using it for 15mths so I am wondering if the battery is weak. How can you tell? Only even when I have felt hot this cycle it has gave a pretty low temp compared to last cycles higher than norm temps! I think I'll wait to see the results of this cycle (ie AF) before getting a new one or trying to open it to see if I can get it a new battery.

It could mean I didn't ovulate when FF says though? Agh-grrr!

EDIT: TMI, well, spotting too! I only noticed cos I decided to put a panty liner on 'just in case' otherwise I wouldn't have noticed on my black underwear and there is pink on the liner, though nothing when I wiped. Looks bad news :( although a spark hopes for implantation dip and spotting but I very much doubt it.

Kisses-4-Baby May 22nd, 2009 05:46 AM

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Oh no! Stay away AF!! Oh boy you must be sooo frustrated huh :dothug: I would say it would be worth getting a new thermometer. 15 months is quite a long time, the battery might be going a bit flat. (I'm thinking of changing mine over too, I bought it in December 07 and it was doing the wierdest things last week)
Well, I really hope that it's implantation spotting, it's the right time anyway. And if it is AF then grrr i'll be so so frustrated for you :( Is the B6 the only thing you can take to lengthen the LP?

Fingers crossed for implantation!!

Mommy2Dakota May 22nd, 2009 05:52 AM

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:cry: Well its turned into a full flow so I am devastated! Not cos I'm not pregnant - I wasn't getting my hopes up - but because I am back to square one with my luteal phase (a rubbish 7 days). I don't know what went wrong! :confused:
And I feel surrounded by preggos! I've seen about 5 this morning already not to mention I'm avoiding my best friend and feeling guilty for it cos she's 4mths along. Then yesterday at work I saw an ex-collegue who is 6mths pregs with her third child in less time than I've had one and twice (by her and another) got asked the dreaded 'When are you having another then? Don't you want any more?'

Right, I'm off for a super cry now. I don't know how I am going toget through work tomorrow.

Kisses-4-Baby May 22nd, 2009 05:59 AM

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Oh Jo i'm so sorry :cry: That sucks so bad :(
What will you do now?

Elise xo

~*Kixs*~ May 22nd, 2009 07:10 AM

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(((HUGS))) I am sorry AF showed up and your LP is so short again <_< Could you talk to your OB about maybe starting a progesteron supplement after Oing to help length you LP? I have not done this but heard of pleantly who have.

I really hate it when people ask "when are going to have another one?" I had 2 m/c between my DD and DS and while I am very open about it sometimes I just did not feel like talking about it KWIM. And that stupid question made me feel even more like a faluire!

But I will tell you there are 3y between my DD & DS and I LOVE the age difference! DD was fully potty trained, sleeping in her big girl bed, and pretty self sufitant by the time DS finally came along. And she also takes on a nurturing role with him instead of being jealous of him. Hopefully your 2nd will come along right about the same time so DD will be in that same phase.

I agree that it is probably time for a new thremo. And CD1 is a great time to start using it!!! if you switch thermo's mid-cycle sometimes they throw off your temp b/c of the slight difference in the battery life.

How is weaning going with DD? When I potty trained (slight difference ;) ) my DD I promised her she could take ballete class when she could use the big potty all the time. Having a goal at the end of the tunel really seemed to help motivate her. Just saying.

Mommy2Dakota May 22nd, 2009 08:14 AM

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Thanks for the support. I really don't know what to do next. Was it a fluke? Will my next cycle LP be OK again? I have questions! And I want to see a doc but am afraid they won't understand or support me whilst breastfeeding. If they see that as the cause - and maybe it is but I can't see how when so many others get pregs with no problem whilst nursing - then they won't do a thing. Do I lie about still nursing? But then I'll be scared of them treating me with something unsafe.....

I've read about progesterone cream and also read that it is unavailable to buy from within the UK legally - or not from the docs or something - but is OK to get shipped in from abroad. It is another option - I already spoke to DH about it - but it IS very expensive too and I'm worried about not getting the genuine article from ordering online.

I agree about the age gap. I wanted one sooner of course and we all make the most of whatever age-gap we get, be it close or long, but I do know now is more perfect than if DD had been younger. Stopping nursing is just really hard though. My boobs get so sore now after ovulation that I am ready but she has always been a big booby monster! She has already cut down alot in 5 or so months. She went from 10 times in 24hrs to currently about 4 times from bedtime til morning. I have been preparing her to stop when she is 3 but because of my sore boobs trying to get her to stop sooner. If I refuse the bedtime feed she has a tantrum or stays up really late. When she wakes in the night for a feed and I refuse she either tantrums and hits, kicks and pulls my hair until I snap and shout at her then she wants a cuddle and we lay there for hours and she just talks and is wide awake. Sometimes skips the tantrum but asks for normal milk and a toilet and is restless for hours. After one 'bad' night I'm usually too tired the next to not give in!
I started a gold-star reward chart for her but although she wants the stars its not an immediate reward (as she has to go with no milkies at night but won't get her stars until we get up in the morning).
Today because I am sad and was crying and she wanted to know why I told her that her having milkies is making me sad because she is getting too big and they're getting sore and she said she won't have milkies tonight...but we'll see....when she's tired she forgets everything she agreed to by day.

Kisses-4-Baby May 22nd, 2009 08:43 AM

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hmmm...perhaps you could try a new thermometer for this cycle, and if there's no change on the LP, (IMO) I think maybe it's worth speaking to a doctor. He/she may be able to give you some answers or if not, refer you to a fertility specialist? But then there's the cost involved....yeah probably shouldn't lie about BF because like you said they might give you something unsafe..

And I totally get what it's like to try to wean the LO's off booby at night. DD was about 20 months old and still loved booby. When you're tired you just want to SLEEP!!! Don't feel bad about it though hey because there are so many women who think like that! Even now, Eva still sleeps in our bed. If I put her in her own room I don't think ANYONE would get much sleep. I just keep telling myself that it won't be forever when she gets a bit older and more knowing she will learn to sleep in her own bed.
Well i'm off to sleep now!

Elise :)

~*Kixs*~ May 22nd, 2009 09:01 AM

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Could you possibly see a midwife instead of an OB??? She might be more understanding about your extended nursing. The modern medical community can be very tight cheeked about things they don't see as 'normal'...never mind thousands of years of history!

There is a lady in my PR who is a midwife who believes is extended nursing...she has done it will all 5 or her kids. Do you want me to get her contact info for you? She has her PM's turned off but I could put a post on the PR board. Maybe she could give you some insight.

OR...maybe check out the AP board...loads of good advise on there! Are you already on it? I think you may be but I am not sure.

Mommy2Dakota May 22nd, 2009 10:29 AM

Re: Urgh!
 
I've had a good cry and feel better for it. Amazing how we bounce back eh?

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Originally Posted by Kisses-4-Baby (Post 15925970)
hmmm...perhaps you could try a new thermometer for this cycle, and if there's no change on the LP, (IMO) I think maybe it's worth speaking to a doctor. He/she may be able to give you some answers or if not, refer you to a fertility specialist? But then there's the cost involved....yeah probably shouldn't lie about BF because like you said they might give you something unsafe..

And I totally get what it's like to try to wean the LO's off booby at night. DD was about 20 months old and still loved booby. When you're tired you just want to SLEEP!!! Don't feel bad about it though hey because there are so many women who think like that! Even now, Eva still sleeps in our bed. If I put her in her own room I don't think ANYONE would get much sleep. I just keep telling myself that it won't be forever when she gets a bit older and more knowing she will learn to sleep in her own bed.
Well i'm off to sleep now!

Elise :)

I was just all set to order progesterone cream when I saw an article that was bad saying its a farce and could be dangerous!:eek: It said the reason its a cream is to bypass the strict safety laws for drugs and can be classed as a cosmetic instead. Not sure what to think now as I have read of people using it sucessfully (even nursing mums).

I am thinking, as you said, maybe I should just talk to a doc first and see what they say? Its free here in the UK. IVF isn't but I think the initial tests are - but they won't test you until you stop breastfeeding. But maybe I can ask about their opinion on progesterone cream?
I have a fave doc - she's hard to get an appointment for - but she told me when my DD was just a babe that - as we were co-sleeping - that 'you won't get her out your bed until shes 5' and then added 'thats how long all my children slept in my bed' and so very early on, like decided to be an extended breastfeeder, I was OK with that. I still am. Although I want nursing to end (peacefully) I still want us to co-sleep a bit longer. I kinda figure once she stops nursing and sleeps through the night it'll be easier to get her in her own bed.

*TheyCallMeMommy* :

That would be great if you think she will help! Maybe she knows about progesterone cream too and if its safe/advisable?

I used to be on an AP board when D was under 12mths but found it didn't apply so much after that age (apart from co-sleeping and nursing). Also wherever I go I seem to be in a minority with this issue. Other nursing mums seem to get pregs OK.

I'm not sure if we can book to see a midwife here (UK)when not pregs or if they will deal with issues outside of immdeiate pregnancy and birth. I saw one 'contraception and family planning' expert but she just said that a doc will do nothing until we've weaned (despite getting pregs herself whilst nursing a 3mth old).


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