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March 9th, 2009, 12:45 PM
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Many people are pro-life and yet also for the death penalty. To me those are not inclusive, but I'm not debating that opinion, right now!

And I'm going to acknowledge that my question is very far-fetched, right now, it's not possible, so I suppose there will be those that would say, "I cannot answer since this could never happen, or if it ever does, I'd think about it then." So if that's your reply, don't bother.

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Science is going further and further every day in isolating genes and what each controls. What if--sometime in the future--science was able to isolate a gene that was present in all rapists/serial killers, and were able to 'predict' who would become a rapist/serial murderer, without a doubt. And then what if they were able to identify this gene in utero. Should women be screened for this gene during pregnancy? If so, and if an embryo was found to have that gene, what should be done--if anything, if you were the government/police? What if you were the mother?

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March 9th, 2009, 01:34 PM
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Should women be screened for this gene during pregnancy? If so, and if an embryo was found to have that gene, what should be done--if anything, if you were the government/police? What if you were the mother?

I think screening for such a gene should be an option for women. If my embryo was found to have the gene of a serial killer/rapist, I would not abort my child because I believe that there are other factors that determine the actions of a person besides genes alone. Some of those factors are environment, parenting, education, etc. I also think knowing that kind of information before the child is born would be helpful in me raising my child as it relates to steering his mind in another more positive direction and away from things that may trigger negative reactions.

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March 9th, 2009, 05:09 PM
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There's never really "one gene" that controls anything. There's more than one gene that decides eye color. Even the "homosexual gene" that was found is not one specific gene, but more than two genes that seem to influence homosexual behavior. So the odds of one gene controlling whether someone would be a serial killer or rapist is slim to none.

Hypothetically, I would probably make it part of standardized genetic screening, just like they do genetic screening for certain types of illnesses. However, I don't think the gov't would be able to force someone to abort this fetus, just like they couldn't force someone to abort a fetus that will be born with a condition which would make them die shortly after birth (if not in utero). I don't know, it's hard to answer this one because it really seems to beyond the realm of science; and there are too many environmental factors which could make someone do something as anti-social as rape.

Say you DO lock up all the people who have this rapist gene, or closely monitor them, or whatever. That does nothing for the people who learn rape by experience - for instance, the statistics say that someone who was molested as a child has a higher chance of molesting someone else when they're an adult.
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March 9th, 2009, 10:39 PM
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I'm pro choice, but I don't agree with this at all. I don't agree with aborting a fetus because of faulty genetics for any reason, unless the fetus had a terminal illness and it would die a few hours after birth anyhow. That is the ONLY reason I would ever consider aborting simply because of a genetic abnormality. I think it's horrible that women choose to abort fetuses that have Down syndrome and other disorders. If I conceived a child who was found to have the rapist gene, if such a thing would ever exist, I would certainly not abort it for that reason.

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March 10th, 2009, 11:12 AM
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You can't understand how a parent would want to save their fetus from a life of suffering?

Edited b/c I'm long winded.
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March 10th, 2009, 04:50 PM
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I'm usually for research along these lines, but I would not condone this testing what so ever. Just another bid at designer perfect people, which I'm fully against.

A lot of murder is situational (drunk driving accidents tend to end up being murder charges, as you made the choice to drive drunk, risking the lives of everyone else), and it's not fair to single someone out because they have a gene that a lot of people who've commited murders have... it's just not fair.
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