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April 18th, 2011, 08:13 PM
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I'm having a problem with Lily's swim lessons, and I'm wondering if what I think I am going to do is too much.

First, she's 7, and doesn't know how to swim. She's a bit late to the game but she isn't too far behind her peers. We are in Colorado, and not a "swimming state," if you know what I mean

Well the first level of swimming was fine. It was 4 classes that were meant to get the kids used to the water and teach water safety.

She is in level 2 now, and it meets 2 times a week for 6 weeks. The first class was great, there was two instructors, with about 6 kids. Class time went well and I thought "Hey, maybe she will really be swimming by the end of these 6 weeks." The only problems I had was that 3 of the kids didn't listen, so a lot of the class time was correcting these kids. Lily and one little boy were perfect angels and spent a lot of time waiting.

Second class, it was only one teacher. I thought maybe the other instructor was sick.

Third class, the same thing, only one teacher. We are starting to notice trends. Barely any time was spent on each kid. If one kid messed something up, they would tell them how to fix it but not have them practice it immediately after. SO MUCH TIME was spent on correcting other kids! Another Mom and I (the mom of the little boy) talked about how much time was spent on kids that didn't listen. We looked at other groups that have kids actually swimming, and our kids are doing nothing. Honestly, they haven't learned much at all. We requested another teacher be there, because by this point the kids should be actually doing something.

Today is the 4th class, and there was only 4 kids in the class. They split up the group, but we notice yet again, no one is learning. No one is being corrected. The other groups are having their kids excel and actually swim. They are in 3 1/2 ft of water, the next level is in the 10ft pool. Lily is NOT ready for that. They said most kids need the class twice, in each level. At this rate she will be in this class 3 times. Tomorrow I plan on taking her swimming and trying to teach her some stuff myself, because she's going to Summer Camp and I dont want her to be one of the only kids her age that can't swim.

So here is my problem... tomorrow I am planning on bringing this issue up with the rec center. What would you like to have done... a change in instructor, or credit for her retaking the class? Or both? The problem with switching classes is that she is in the block of time where the pool is completely closed to the public, it's only swim lessons, so no distractions. Changing the time might change the day she goes, and she doesn't need to be distracted by kids playing.

I'm just upset at paying for lessons, and yet seeing no progress whatsoever. I found myself going over there to tell her things she needed to fix because the instructor wasn't doing it. It's just frustrating me.
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April 18th, 2011, 08:20 PM
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I would recommend a credit to retake the class, next class with a different instructor. I can't think of a reason that a 7 y/o shouldn't be able to swim after 6-8 lessons. It's not rocket surgery. When I was on the swim team, the lowest levels took in kids who had never swam before and in a matter of weeks had them ready to swim in meets. (Not fast, think of a herd of 5 y/o's doggie paddling across the width of the pool instead of the length. lol) Bottom line, for good instructors it just plain doesn't take that long to teach swimming. We had 3 swim coaches to the entire team.
IMO you definitely should have seen results by now.

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April 18th, 2011, 08:52 PM
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Okay, that gives me faith that I'm not crazy and think this is kind of wasted time. I think the only thing I have really seen progress in is her floating... but they barely go back to reinforce that. I just want her to at least get to a point before camp that she can survive if she falls into deep water. I don't trust a lifeguard, as I almost drowned as the lifeguard looked at me and didnt do anything at WaterWorld (its the reason I'm terrified of wave pools), and yet im a strong swimmer! So I just want to be confident that she is okay when I'm not there. At this point, she's not.

We will call in the morning and hopefully get a credit for the next session, or rather a refund as we already paid for that session, or have it applied to the session after that. Hopefully I can get some progress with her myself tomorrow, because the kid needs to learn to swim!
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April 19th, 2011, 08:04 PM
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I didn't get to call today, class and taking Lily swimming myself took a good chunk out of our day. I am going to call tomorrow though.

I took her swimming today and she did a LOT better. I was able to get her to actually doggy paddle and get going for a few without any help. Using a kickboard, she learned to move the entire length of the lap pool. She did SO MUCH better, with just me today in the hour and a half we swam. So I really don't think this class is doing her much good, but she still needs to be in lessons as I don't have the skills myself to teach her what to do. I know how to swim, but I just can't teach that well, ya know?

So I am really, really hoping that next session is better, and talking to the rec center tomorrow either gets us a new instructor or credit in the class. I'd really prefer credit AND a teacher change **crosses fingers**
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April 20th, 2011, 08:20 PM
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So the swim manager wasn't there today, but I am absolutely, without a doubt complaining.

EVERY other class has kids actually swimming. Last class only 5 kids came, I thought they downsized the class. 6 kids showed up today, so actually they were just absent last week. They aren't progressing. And the last 10 minutes of class (out of 30 minutes) they played marco polo in the baby pool, which is all of a foot and a half or so. I'm TICKED. I looked at my stepdad, he looked at me, and we both said "Really? Games? Marco Polo? Um, no" we aren't happy at all. Tomorrow before class I'm calling and requesting a refund or credit to the next session. I'm absolutely ticked off, and mad that my kid isnt progressing at all. She really is trying too, today she really tried her hardest, but it was just a mess with all the kids.

Blah. I'll update when we talk to the pool manager!
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April 25th, 2011, 01:48 AM
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Did you ever get to talk to anyone? I would be asking for a credit on another class with a different instructor. Where are these kids parents who aren't listening? If there's suppose to be two instructors, then why aren't there two?

Seems like you'd teach her more by yourself. Sorry I would be extremely frustrated too and would have to complain.
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May 2nd, 2011, 01:02 AM
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I used to teach swimming lessons. Here they go from level 1-12. Levels 1-4 need one instructor per three children maximum. And kids who don't listen get their bottoms plunked down on the side of the pool and get to watch the rest of the class learn to swim. Games are incorporated into our swim classes tho, but Marco Polo would have been done in the bigger pool, and you'd have to swim to get the person, no walking. even if it's two kicks and two arm flaps, at least they're TRYING to swim. lol.

Our biggest problem is they don't try and correct form until the later levels, so of course, the kids develop bad habits early and then have to struggle to get it right (*raises hand, took me forever to finish my levels because I was taught wrong to start with*).

I hope you got it sorted!
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