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September 14th, 2010, 12:29 PM
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It seems the more I read about birth, child rearing and other medical issues the less I trust the medical establishment. I used to think they were doing a pretty good job until I started reading more. I'm not looking for this to turn into a huge debate or judging anyone I'm just curious. Do you trust the medical establishment? Do you trust them more or less now that you are pregnant?

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September 14th, 2010, 01:24 PM
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I only trust them to a point. Doctors are humans, they have learnt what they were taught in medical school and by reading books and journals. I trust my gut more because it has never failed me, can't say the same about Doctors I have had. I take everything they say with caution and I look up what they say.
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September 14th, 2010, 01:53 PM
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As a whole, probably not. But I think it's like any huge group. There seems to be an overall attitude of "for the good of the whole, not the individual", but if you look, you can find the people who are genuine.

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September 14th, 2010, 02:00 PM
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Yes with a grain of salt. I am a hospital worker and i know they try hard to make things happen the way they are supposed to. But people are human, and with so many patients.... things get screwed up sometimes. Do i think it should happen? No. But i feel like the majority of people benefit.

Since becoming pregnant i actually trust my doctor more and the establishment less. My doctor has been super cautious with all of my PTL issues, and has made me feel safe and happy. The hospital however... eh.. i've had some rough experiences with new residents and busy nurses forgetting i was there.

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September 14th, 2010, 02:41 PM
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No, I don't. I think there are superb, amazing men and women in the field, but it's hard to find them, and it's hard for them not to be completely controlled by the establishment, rules, regulations, and insurance companies.
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September 14th, 2010, 05:12 PM
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to an extent. I trust that most of the time, they think they are doing the right thing. Yes, there are some who push their own agenda and there are some who do the best they can for each individual patient. What I DIStrust is what they are taught. I don't think the medical establishment as a whole (especially in regards to birth) teaches the right course of action.
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September 14th, 2010, 06:24 PM
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^^ I like that... I, too, think they "think" they're doing the right thing.

I've had trouble finding doctors I like my whole life, but now have one that's great. I usually do my own research, listen to what they tell me, and come up with a solution somewhere in the middle.

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September 14th, 2010, 07:17 PM
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No- the system caters to the mass and does a poor job at seeing patients as individuals. There are some amazing care givers but they are fighting for their lives and struggling to practice in this frustrating medical environment. My heart goes out to all of the OB's, midwives, and nurses who fight for the rights of each individual women who wants to birth intuitively.
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September 14th, 2010, 08:42 PM
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I trust them to a point. I definitely think they want to help, but I think they are human, so I am always doing my own research.

I do not look so kindly on the vast majority of OBs though. Don't trust them as far as I can throw them - with notable exceptions, who should probably be cannonized because it is SO hard to go against the grain in that field.

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September 15th, 2010, 07:18 AM
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I see them as any other business... there are some out there that, no matter how I walk through their doors, they will be all about my best interests and my needs/desires.

Take the clothing store: sometimes I walk in with a huge wad of cash and the vast majority of stores will be all over me, trying to coerce me into buying the most expensive clothing, telling me how wonderful the clothing looks on me regardless if it truly does, and grubbing for my wad of cash like a bunch of vultures.

Every once in awhile, though, I go into a store with a huge wad of cash and the sales people will ask me what I want, work with me the best they can, and if they cannot give me what I am looking for, they will refer me to another store down the street... never batting an eye at the wad of cash in my hand.

Although we don't walk into the hospital with a wad of cash in hand (most times) our insurances definitely look like a bottomless pit of money to the business of obstetrics. Most are going to try to upsell, persuade, and coerce - getting the most (their) bang for (my) buck.

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September 15th, 2010, 08:43 AM
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Outside of the birthing world I feel like I can trust them mostly because if you are seeing them for something, usually something is wrong. And that's what they are trained to do, figure out what's wrong. I think you have to use your own head and be critical of them, but they in the end they went to medical school and I didn't. Having said that, I have definitely gotten second opinions or just found someone new because I didn't agree with a doctor's course of action or just had a weird feeling about it.

In the birthing community, I am way more not trusting. When you are pregnant and giving birth there is nothing wrong with you. You don't need anyone to find a million things wrong and list all the reasons for c/s.

But I am not anti-medicine. I think there is a time and place for medicine and a lot of times it saves people's lives.

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September 15th, 2010, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BobittyBoo View Post
Outside of the birthing world I feel like I can trust them mostly because if you are seeing them for something, usually something is wrong.
This is pretty much how I feel. I rarely go to the doctor myself, but when I take the girls, I am going to educate myself first. I want to be informed and make the best decision for my girls. If that means a second opinion because I'm not comfortable with the first, then so be it. I think it's a mistake for anyone to just blindly accept what one doctor says just because they have the education, but that doesn't mean that I think all doctors are wrong.

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September 16th, 2010, 05:32 PM
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I am in the medical profession... I trust myself as a I practice medicine, some others are questionable...

When it comes to pregnancy, labor, birth, and post-partum I have a hard time trusting the medical profession since this is a NATURAL part of what us as women do... I had faith in them when I first got pregnant, and starting slowly then quickly losing the faith in the medical profession the further along into my pregnancy I went... I lost faith in the profession when I went into labor... I had a VERY good pregnancy, no complications, and I was still treated like I had some sort of incurable disease.. it was very depressing...
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September 16th, 2010, 07:09 PM
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At this point I am thoroughly disenfranchised with the medical community. I feel like the OB's, midwives and other personnel that I dealt with didn't take me seriously at all. I told my DH that if we have another child we are having a home birth with no medical personnel. He laughed but I wasn't kidding.
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