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September 21st, 2012, 04:46 PM
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I just had my 35 week appointment, and it was terrible. (hypnobabies bubble of peace warning)

Some history, I hemorrhaged after both my son's births, the last one worse than ever resulting in a blood transfusion. They were expecting it and tried almost everything that can be done, and I still needed the transfusion.

I have been thinking about it a lot lately and I am freaked out about it, so I brought it up at the appointment. We looked at my last birth's records and it made me have flashbacks and it's causing so much stress, I have been bawling. The levels before and after the bleeding made it look like I had lost half of my body's blood volume. And as I said, that was after them giving me a shot of pitocin, cytotec in my bum, 2 bags of pit, manual massage of my uterus, and methrogene. THEN came the transfusion.

I am terrified. I have never been so scared. I really don't want it to happen again, and I am being told that it most likely will. I have these terrible visions of flatlining on the bed, going in to shock, losing my uterus. I keep having flashbacks of them squishing huge clots out of me while my blood pressure got lower and lower.

I think part of why I bled more with my second as opposed to my first is that he was 10 lbs 9 ounces, over 2 lbs more than my first. That wasn't why I bled, but I feel like it made it worse. I feel so defeated that I had this wonderful, empowering natural childbirth with a big baby, but then my body failed afterwards.

So we talked about an induction at 38 weeks, and honestly I think it's what I want. Induction increases the risk of excessive bleeding, but so does having a very large baby. I need to decide which risk is higher. The midwives are going to consult with a high risk doctor to talk about what he thinks. Forget about having a natural childbirth in the water though. I know I could not handle pitocin without drugs. It was bad enough post partum, forget about it with a baby in there.

It is such a terrible feeling knowing that something bad is going to happen, especially after I am forced to go through something as difficult as labor. I know I just have to be brave and face it, because there is no way around it. Such a scary feeling.

I just want her out of me. I don't want my uterus to have to stretch any more than it has. I am stocking up in iron and vitamin K, but there is only so much supplements can do, especially when all those medications in the hospital did nothing.

I am so done having children. Never again.
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September 21st, 2012, 05:50 PM
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I'm so sorry you are having a hard time. Have you looked into drinking NORA tea? No matter if you decide to induce or not, it can be very helpful.

NORA = nettles, oatstraw, red raspberry leaf, alfalfa

The midwives here suggested it to me since I have struggled with bleeding in the past. It worked great for this pregnancy. I lost the max amount that they are comfortable with at a home birth without having to transfer, but for me, it was the smallest amount that I have ever lost. And I felt totally fine. I just rested in bed for the day and drank LOTS of water.

If you can't find NORA tea, RRL tea is also supposed to help with postpartum blood loss.

Also, just out of curiosity, how long were your labors in the past? How did you push? Did you naturally wait for your placenta to birth, or did they pull on it?

If you talk with your care provider about induction, be sure to cover all of the options you have available to you. It doesn't all have to revolve around pit. And you can start getting your body ready the week before with the use of homeopathics (you can PM me for the regime if you need to). I've supported lots of mamas through amazing and beautiful births (even water births) that were induced. They were achieved with foley bulbs, LOW DOSE pit (no more than 8 mL/u), cervidil, homeopathics, acupressure, and aromatherapy. There's a lot out there that can make whatever experience you choose a lot easier on you.
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September 22nd, 2012, 01:40 PM
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I have not heard of that tea. I googled but could not find it to order, only recipes for how to make it. I have been drinking between 2-4 tea bags of RRL tea every day for a few weeks. I have also been taking alfalfa sprout supplements 3 times a day for the last week, which it looks like is also in that NORA tea.

My first labor was around 16 hours and I really can't remember how long I pushed. No more than an hour. That birth was medicated and augmented with pit, and while I hemorrhaged, I did not need a transfusion and my blood count was just fine after. My second labor was around 6.5 hrs and I pushed for 30 minutes, no medication during the labor. I can't really remember either time if they pulled on my placenta or not, I think they may have.

I am currently using a birth center and they are just so "whatever" about this issue, I was the one who brought up the induction option. I am starting to panic simply because every time I bring it up they say they will be proactive about it and do everything that they did last time. That doesn't make me feel better. I feel like we should be doing something different.

When I did bring up encouraging labor early she said we could start the black cohosh drops at 38 weeks, and sweep my membranes if I am dilated at all then. She would be open to using more invasive induction methods, but says that pit is just as much of a risk as a big baby. I disagree, only because I had pit with my first and didn't bleed quite as much as my second that was the bigger baby without pit.

I think I may try and meet with a high risk dr next week and see what he says. I love midwives and birth centers but at this point I am not comfortable with how they are approaching this.
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September 24th, 2012, 11:22 AM
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Whatever happens I hope you have a safe and healthy delivery!
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September 26th, 2012, 08:59 AM
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I think you have to do what makes you most comfortable, what makes you feel safe and prepared. I hope that an appointment with a high risk doctor can put you at ease, and maybe you can ask the midwives for a referral to one who is supportive of NCB so you don't get a person who says, "well, why don't we just schedule a c-section," or something else that's not in line with your plan for a natural birth.

I didn't realize there were so many natural methods for encouraging labor! I'm going to keep those in mind, too. And maybe something like that will work for you. It sounds like a lot of them would feel good anyway, especially as you're dealing with this very stressful situation.

Whatever happens, I hope you can find some peace ahead of time and have a safe birth and hold your happy, healthy little baby.

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September 26th, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Also, keep in mind when talking to a dr. about induction how they go about it. I had several friends who were pregnant one after the other and all at the same time a couple years ago but we all saw different dr.s.

One girl was told she was going to have a very large baby, 10lbs+. She allowed her dr. to schedule an induction and they rushed through it. From start of pit to delivery there was maybe 6 hrs total. During this time they kept telling her if she didn't have the baby by 2pm they were going to give her a c/s. She was in lots of pain and miserable afterwards. Her baby ended up being just over 7lbs.

Another girl had an induction but her dr. studied how to properly induce a woman to more closely resemble natural labor. She was also expected to have a larger baby. She went in first thing in the morning and was started on a low dose of pit which was gradually increased throughout the day allowing her body to progress more naturally. They kept the whole thing very low stress with no threat of c/s at all. She delivered a happy healthy baby 12-13hrs later and while she did have some of the swelling/discomfort that can come after birth, her body responded much better. She delivered a baby just shy of 10lbs.

Just something to keep in mind if you do go with an induction.
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