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  #1  
July 14th, 2006, 03:41 PM
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I propose that instead of using intact to describe a boy who has not gone through Cultural Parental Choice to Cut Away Part of His Penis Without His Consent, we should simply use the word penis. That way there's no arguing that saying "uncircumcised" makes "circumcised" seem the norm. There's no arguing that admitting that normal and healthy tissue is missing from a boy's or man's penis is somehow, ludicrously saying that the boy or man is completely and unalterably impaired in mind and body. None of our other normal, and healthy body parts need special words to describe them. So why should we parents who didn't pay a doctor or Mohel to perform surgery to remove a healthy and normal part of our sons have to take the time and effort to please those of you who did make the decision. I'm not on here to protect your feelings, and if it hurts your feelings that my son's penis is normal and your son's penis has been altered, then let me just remind you that you made that decision.

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  #2  
July 28th, 2006, 11:13 AM
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I propose that instead of using intact to describe a boy who has not gone through Cultural Parental Choice to Cut Away Part of His Penis Without His Consent, we should simply use the word penis. That way there's no arguing that saying "uncircumcised" makes "circumcised" seem the norm. There's no arguing that admitting that normal and healthy tissue is missing from a boy's or man's penis is somehow, ludicrously saying that the boy or man is completely and unalterably impaired in mind and body. None of our other normal, and healthy body parts need special words to describe them. So why should we parents who didn't pay a doctor or Mohel to perform surgery to remove a healthy and normal part of our sons have to take the time and effort to please those of you who did make the decision. I'm not on here to protect your feelings, and if it hurts your feelings that my son's penis is normal and your son's penis has been altered, then let me just remind you that you made that decision.

~Nay[/b]
I'm going to start using "with foreskin" and "without foreskin". I can't think of any way that THAT can cause offense.
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July 31st, 2006, 10:08 AM
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I propose that instead of using intact to describe a boy who has not gone through Cultural Parental Choice to Cut Away Part of His Penis Without His Consent, we should simply use the word penis. That way there's no arguing that saying "uncircumcised" makes "circumcised" seem the norm. There's no arguing that admitting that normal and healthy tissue is missing from a boy's or man's penis is somehow, ludicrously saying that the boy or man is completely and unalterably impaired in mind and body. None of our other normal, and healthy body parts need special words to describe them. So why should we parents who didn't pay a doctor or Mohel to perform surgery to remove a healthy and normal part of our sons have to take the time and effort to please those of you who did make the decision. I'm not on here to protect your feelings, and if it hurts your feelings that my son's penis is normal and your son's penis has been altered, then let me just remind you that you made that decision.

~Nay[/b]
I'm going to start using "with foreskin" and "without foreskin". I can't think of any way that THAT can cause offense.
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I'll come up with something.
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July 31st, 2006, 10:43 AM
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I propose that instead of using intact to describe a boy who has not gone through Cultural Parental Choice to Cut Away Part of His Penis Without His Consent, we should simply use the word penis. That way there's no arguing that saying "uncircumcised" makes "circumcised" seem the norm. There's no arguing that admitting that normal and healthy tissue is missing from a boy's or man's penis is somehow, ludicrously saying that the boy or man is completely and unalterably impaired in mind and body. None of our other normal, and healthy body parts need special words to describe them. So why should we parents who didn't pay a doctor or Mohel to perform surgery to remove a healthy and normal part of our sons have to take the time and effort to please those of you who did make the decision. I'm not on here to protect your feelings, and if it hurts your feelings that my son's penis is normal and your son's penis has been altered, then let me just remind you that you made that decision.

~Nay[/b]
I'm going to start using "with foreskin" and "without foreskin". I can't think of any way that THAT can cause offense.
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I'll come up with something.
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I don't doubt it, Anakin - and thank you for validating my theory that some people work VERY hard to come up with things about which to be offended.
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July 31st, 2006, 11:29 AM
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I'm going to start using "with foreskin" and "without foreskin". I can't think of any way that THAT can cause offense.[/b]
I really don;t care about offending anyone, I will stick with reality..

We have a penis-as defined by nature, and

a truncated penis forced onto infants.. nothing further is needed.

Reality cares not about the feelings of the perpetrators.. it only defines the status of their victims.
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July 31st, 2006, 02:02 PM
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I propose that instead of using intact to describe a boy who has not gone through Cultural Parental Choice to Cut Away Part of His Penis Without His Consent, we should simply use the word penis. That way there's no arguing that saying "uncircumcised" makes "circumcised" seem the norm. There's no arguing that admitting that normal and healthy tissue is missing from a boy's or man's penis is somehow, ludicrously saying that the boy or man is completely and unalterably impaired in mind and body. None of our other normal, and healthy body parts need special words to describe them. So why should we parents who didn't pay a doctor or Mohel to perform surgery to remove a healthy and normal part of our sons have to take the time and effort to please those of you who did make the decision. I'm not on here to protect your feelings, and if it hurts your feelings that my son's penis is normal and your son's penis has been altered, then let me just remind you that you made that decision.

~Nay[/b]
I'm going to start using "with foreskin" and "without foreskin". I can't think of any way that THAT can cause offense.
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I'll come up with something.
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I don't doubt it, Anakin - and thank you for validating my theory that some people work VERY hard to come up with things about which to be offended.
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Oh come on Ann...it was a joke. Jeesh!
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July 31st, 2006, 05:11 PM
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Unnecessarily and forcefully ripping apart, cruching, and slicing off a normal, healthy, functioning and erogenous part of an infant's gentials is hardly something to joke about.

But what I do find incredibly funny are the word games that those who do it go through to try to prevent these very details from being expressed in the terms they try to use for their actions.
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August 1st, 2006, 05:18 AM
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Unnecessarily and forcefully ripping apart, cruching, and slicing off a normal, healthy, functioning and erogenous part of an infant's gentials is hardly something to joke about.

But what I do find incredibly funny are the word games that those who do it go through to try to prevent these very details from being expressed in the terms they try to use for their actions.[/b]
Only you could lecture someone for saying they made a joke and in the next breath say you find something incredibly funny. You are the most...the absolute most Inonow!
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August 1st, 2006, 09:04 AM
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Only you could lecture someone for saying they made a joke and in the next breath say you find something incredibly funny. You are the most...the absolute most Inonow! [/b]
Thank you, I personally find illogical and irrational mental exercises and word games to be funny, but not the basic concept of deliberately harming infants.
I do appreciate the ironies of the human rationalizations. And circumcision presents more ironies than most subjects.
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August 1st, 2006, 12:18 PM
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Only you could lecture someone for saying they made a joke and in the next breath say you find something incredibly funny. You are the most...the absolute most Inonow! [/b]
Thank you, I personally find illogical and irrational mental exercises and word games to be funny, but not the basic concept of deliberately harming infants.
I do appreciate the ironies of the human rationalizations. And circumcision presents more ironies than most subjects.
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Justify your hypocricy any way you see fit Inonow. But it's clear to all, when Inonow finds it funny, it's ok to laugh, if anybody else makes a joke, it's not a funny topic to joke about.
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