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July 28th, 2006, 07:38 AM
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July 28th, 2006, 07:56 AM
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I find it very ironic that it's considered "okay" by our society for there to be Playboys and other similar material floating around but it's not okay for a woman to feed her child because that's "sexual". I'm not breastfeeding (as most of you know) but it does not bother me one bit (even before I was pregnant) to see a woman breastfeeding in public. Most of them are very discreet about it, and like the article said, it's not like they have signs or something pointing to their exposed breast. I know some girls on here have breastfeeding pics in their siggies and I don't find them offensive at all. I think that the problem with society is that breasts are now only viewed as entirely sexual when there whole reason for being there is to feed your children.
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July 28th, 2006, 08:14 AM
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I don't think it is sexual..but....well personally it does bug me a bit when they breastfeed all willy nilly. When they are discreet, great, fine, feed your young, but the moms who just whip it out with no regard to others around do raise eyebrows, it is a private personal thing, treat it as such...

If I were to breastfeed I would not want folks gawking at me or even giving me any kind of looks, so I would appreciate having a covert nursing shirt or a private place to nurse.
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July 28th, 2006, 08:28 AM
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Anywhere really...at least anywhere that a bottle feeding mom is allowed to feed (so, this may exclude places where no food or drink are allowed- but even these places usually make exceptions for bottlefeeding mothers.

Discreet is a very subjective word, so I don't hold mothers to it. I don't tell women they can't wear belly shirts or tanks or boob shirts. I don't tell mothers to wear blankets or special shirts.

Normalize breastfeeding and this won't even be an issue...
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July 28th, 2006, 08:36 AM
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I'm not exactly a lactivist in the sense that I think each mother is free to do as she wishes, as long as the baby is getting adequate nutrition.
having said that, I have very disturbing news for Gayle Ash of Belton Texas... her innocent, pure, 13 year old boy has probably seen as many breasts as an OBGYN. And he has only seen them in a sexual context. Here's the chance to teach him that breast are more than sexual playthings and she prefers to play all sanctimonious with her "he didn't need to see that" comment. I think he desperately needed to see that, if only to learn some respect for a part of the female anatomy most men just see as their private chew toys (sorry for the graphic tone )

Personally, I'm more discreet while bf. When I'm around my family or in-law's, I don't go and lock myself in a different room (my sil does), but I discreetly put a blanket around me and bf my baby while still enjoying that quality time with my family. No one has complained yet, but no one has seen a boob pop out.

I don't understand this American obsession with boobs. Ever since the Superbowl incident there's been this obsession of people seeing boobs. It's a boob, big deal. If you know a nursing mom you'd know how unsexy boobs can actually be And what's so "gross" about seeing a baby attached to it? The first function of the breast is to provide nourishment for a baby, the sexual thing is just icing on the cake. I wonder if Lauren, mother of a 4-month finds it as gross when her significant other is applying his lips to her boobs. Somehow, a baby eating from a breast is gross but a grown man touching, fondling and even kissing a boob isn't. (disclaimer: I don't think neither is gross, but I'm willing to bet that all those women who turn squeamish at the though of bf don't mind their partners using their boobs).

But if it bothers some people, the solution is simple: don't watch. Lucky for us we have a 360 degree field of vision and don't have to watch stuff we don't want to. But those same people that demand discretion are the first ones to scream, yell and point at the boob for all to watch. Just because we don't wish to see something, that doesn't mean no one else should watch it.

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July 28th, 2006, 08:45 AM
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i got this mag, and it says that this picture was put on the cover on purpose and i said "yay for you!" the whole article inside was about how society sees breastfeeding and why women dont feed longer than they do. i mean seriously before formula and bottles and still in other societies breast feeding is the norm.. its not sexualized. i mean as a culture we've placed sexual emphasis on the breast, but it sure wasn't designed to full fill a sexual need, its not a sexual organ. its purpose is to provide food for babies and young ones.

and i bet that 13 year old starts experimenting younger because his mom DIDNT' talk about that kind of stuff with her kid- to shroud him from a picture that was 75% a picture of the babies face, with no nipple and a blurred boob, i mean really now. i'm the kind of person that if another human walked by and knew i was feeding discreetly as was in the article, and they uttered "ew gross" well girls i hate to tell you but the covers are coming off- i'm flopping em out there, sorry my children have to EAT and you think its sexual. not my problem
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July 28th, 2006, 08:49 AM
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a mother can should be able to FEED her baby where ever a woman is allowed to be!
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July 28th, 2006, 08:57 AM
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a mother can should be able to FEED her baby where ever a woman is allowed to be![/b]
amen!

this is also funny cause i got the mag a few days ago and thought now who in the world is going to be offended by this
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July 28th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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anywhere.


I don't get why this is even a question to people. Do you hear people syaing where is ok to bottle feed my child?


and why is it something private and personal? We are feeding are babies.
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July 28th, 2006, 01:18 PM
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I don't get why this is even a question to people. Do you hear people syaing where is ok to bottle feed my child?


and why is it something private and personal? We are feeding are babies.[/b]
I don't understand how it's "private and personal" either...
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July 28th, 2006, 03:10 PM
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That looks like a nice patch of grass over there...

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July 28th, 2006, 03:34 PM
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i mean as a culture we've placed sexual emphasis on the breast, but it sure wasn't designed to full fill a sexual need, its not a sexual organ. its purpose is to provide food for babies and young ones.[/b]
I have to disagree there - I think breast very definately ARE a sexual object. I don't dispute the feeding aspect - but they cannot be discounted as being sexual simply becasue they are capable of feeding an infant. I happen to like my breast & so does Dh & it isn't becaue society told me too.
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July 28th, 2006, 03:40 PM
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I will breastfeed my son anywhere that he is hungry. A bottlefeeding mother isn't subject to such restrictions so why should breastfeeding mothers--we are both providing the same service to our babies. I am not going to starve my baby just because some stranger is closed minded and hasn't learned that breasts are not strictly sexual objects. They serve both functions and there is nothing wrong or dirty or gross or perverted about either.

This issue has caused a major rift between me and my dh's family. His sil thinks it is absolutely disgusting that I breastfeed my son and am not allowed to do it at their house. They don't agree with it and as per their words I need to respect their house rules. Well it just comes down to them not seeing their nephew and getting to know him and it will be the same with any child we have. Their loss, not mine.

I don't really see why this is an issue either. I'm not saying it's ok to sit there topless on a street corner breastfeeding but every woman I see (including myself) is very discreet. You see more boob from a lingerie ad. I also don't feel like you should have to wear special shirts or put a blanket over the baby's head. I'm not going to be buying expensive nursing shirts when the ones I have are fine and I'm definitely not going to be putting a blanket over my baby's head just because he needs to eat. I don't think any of us would think that it is very comfortable to try and eat a meal with a blanket over your head, especially in the summer when the temperature reaches 100 degrees. There is nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about and if people can't get past their own issues then that's their problem. I'm not going to inconvenience myself or deprive my child because someone can't get past their own insecurities.
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July 28th, 2006, 03:59 PM
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^^I'm sorry your SIL is so close minded.You are doing the right thing by refusing to go there. her loss is right!
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July 28th, 2006, 06:08 PM
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This article actually really light a fire in me lol, it makes me want to NIP everywhere I go. There is nothing wrong with it, and anyone that thinks so needs to revisit their idea of a womans body.
Here are my responses to the quotes.
<<One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it.>>

at 13 I can pretty much guarantee you that your son is looking at porn and probably has an extensive hidden collection of porno mags somewhere in his room. Seeing a boob is nothing new to him, get over it.

<<"I shredded it," said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a breast — it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that.">>

Actually it's not. It's a biological piece of equipment used to feed babies. It's just idiots that have made it a purely sexual object.

<<"I'm totally supportive of it — I just don't like the flashing," she says. "I don't want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn't want to see.">>

I don't want my son seeing a lot of things, doesn't mean I crucify the people doing those activities. I don't want him seeing a bunch of half-drunk, drug-addict bums on the side of the road but it doesn't mean I say crap to them or crucify publications about them or want them ousted out of society. YOU don't want YOU to see it, it's not about your son or husband, that's just a convenient excuse to make you look less like a close-minded person and guess what? Didn't work.

<<"Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob," wrote Lauren, a mother of a 4-month-old.>>

I am almost sickened that a mother of a young infant would have such a harsh comment about it. Glad to know you're encouraging your child to be open minded like you, to the fact that the body is normal and healthy and breastfeeding is nothing to be embarassed or harassed over. When your child is 15 and has major eating disorders because they were raised anally retentive and shamed about their body, post again.

If you don't like something, look away, change the channel, turn the radio off and move on. Good grief. If you don't like boobs that's your business but stop writing 98984398498 letters about how horrible it is for us to feed our children that way nature designed for us to do like we should all care what you think and stop doing it because YOU don't like it.
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July 28th, 2006, 10:01 PM
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If a child is breastfed and that is the only way they are fed, who is anyone to deny the right of a hungry child eating? They should be allowed to breastfeed anywhere.


I do have something to say. I find it highly offensive a woman acted like this:
we were at the grocery store one day and my DH was playing one of those crane machine games after we paid for our groceries. While we were there, a woman comes over to the bench and starts nursing her child. No one in my family even looked her way because my older children knew I nursed my youngest. But this woman didn't cover herself and had the nerve to rudely say my DH needed to go somewhere else because she didn't want a man around while she was nursing her child What nerve, huh? I didn't tell her she had to go somewhere else but I did tell her she was in a crowded grocery store nursing and there was bound to be men around.
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July 28th, 2006, 10:43 PM
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i mean as a culture we've placed sexual emphasis on the breast, but it sure wasn't designed to full fill a sexual need, its not a sexual organ. its purpose is to provide food for babies and young ones.[/b]
I have to disagree there - I think breast very definately ARE a sexual object. I don't dispute the feeding aspect - but they cannot be discounted as being sexual simply becasue they are capable of feeding an infant. I happen to like my breast & so does Dh & it isn't becaue society told me too.
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I said this in another post and I'll say it again... the most sexual places on my body are my ears and my neck... am I to wear turtlenecks and earmuffs year round just because my husband likes to bite and nibble them and it gives me pleasure?

Not every man is even turned on by the sight of breasts... my BIL is a foot man! My sister slaps him if she sees him looking at a girl's feet in flip flops... does that mean they should be outlawed and feet covered all the time? He's not the only man turned on by pretty feet, afterall....

Breasts are for food, first. (however, they can be multi-FUNctional)

I have a right to feed my baby, whether it be by bottle, cup, breast, spoon, WHATEVER, anywhere I happen to be. If any one has a problem with it... they can turn their head.
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I think the vast majority of women that NIP do it discreetly and show FAR less than you see at the beach, or walking in the mall for that matter. I'm so tired of people acting like its obscene to feed your baby. Maybe if more boys were exposed to women nursing their babies, they would be more supportive of their wives BFing later in life (though I can't complain, my DH is great about it)
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July 28th, 2006, 11:47 PM
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My DH was great about it too, in fact he insisted I nurse him though I nursed before him.

My BIL on the other hand, gave my sister such objection about my sister nursing she got so frustrated and gave up. When she had her second, I went down to help her and I was supporting her and there when the lactation consultant came to the house. I guess my BIL looks at it that the breasts are HIS and the babies should not have been on them, but his issues are a whole separate thing.

Bottom line is there is no reason why a mother cannot nurse a hungry baby in public or at all.

ETA: I realized how funny that first line looks to some, I nursed Cody, not my DH
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I'm just appalled, particularly of the mother of the 4 month old. Breasts aren't there for a man's pleasure, they're there to feed a baby. Case, and point.

Everything else is just...everything else. Breasts were there before formula...and I'm so sorry to see that America has chosen to insert the plastic nipple than the real one.
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