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  #1  
June 1st, 2007, 11:53 AM
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I highly applaud how this judge let this poor excuse of a mother know what she is. Judge let's her have it
I'm glad he didn't sugar coat it, in fact I think her children should be taken away and she should be serving time for endangering her kids by letting these monsters into her home.
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June 1st, 2007, 11:59 AM
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What do they mean by saying that she allowed another man to do the same? Was she standing right there saying "go ahead molest my child?" no....I think that was taken out of line. I do think she is an idiot for letting someone who violently sexually assulted her move in and put her kids in danger.
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June 1st, 2007, 12:00 PM
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Did you hear the last part where he said she allowed this to happen before with another man? You're right, her kids should be taken away. I don't think this judge was harsh enough on her.
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June 1st, 2007, 12:02 PM
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I don't think we have all the facts....is there an article? I'm confused on a lot of stuff...
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June 1st, 2007, 12:08 PM
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This is all I could find so far. Link
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June 1st, 2007, 12:15 PM
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Wow, that gave me chills just watching it! What kind of freak molests a little girl or a MENTALLY RETARDED teenager???? ***???!!?!?

I think that judge is freakin awesome! He really told her off and she definently deserved it. I'm sure she knew that guy was a sick son of a ****** and she didn't do anything about it! If I found out that someone close to me was a child molester I would sever all ties with them immediately because there is no way I would put my child in danger. SHE should have gone to prison too!
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June 1st, 2007, 12:35 PM
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I can't really find anything....

Was this guy a previous convicted child molestor? If so, I think the judge was right on. If not.....:::

The only thing I've gathered so far is that in April he forced sex/sexual relations on her or something of that nature and she forgave him and let him move in. She then went out to a bar and left him in care of the kids.
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properly pinned responsibility for these heinous acts on a mother who was too busy with her own social life to be home protecting her children.[/b]
Are mothers never allowed to leave their house?

Her former boyfriend molester her two children in 2003 and she is being blamed for that. Why is she being blamed for that? If we ALL knew who a child molester was at first glance they would all be locked away.

Unless this woman was right there allowing child molestation, then HOW is she being blamed for these mens behavior?
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June 1st, 2007, 12:48 PM
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If he had forced sexual relations with her why would anyone (in their right mind) leave their children with someone like that? She should have never left them with him after what he did to her. She was probably so emotional (in the video) because the judge humiliated her (and rightfully so) in the courtroom. Hopefully DCFS will be keeping tabs on mommy dearest and her next boyfriend. And if the only person you (general you) can get to watch your kids is a creep who abuses people, then no, you (general you) shouldn't be going out to the bar or wherever. As parents, it is our job to protect our children and she failed at that miserably.
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June 1st, 2007, 12:54 PM
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I watched the video.. Is he right? Yes. Will that help? No.

I feel, this mom has low self-esteem, and doesn't respect herself, let alone her kids. She isn't plugged into life, let alone being a mom. She doesn't know how to look after herself. I feel she's in a cycle of abuse and until she can get out of it, her kids should be taken away because she doesn't know how to parent. I disagree with the judge's words on is she really isn't a victim. To me, even though she is a victim, that doesn't give her the right to allow her kids to become victims. I don't think his words, as true as they might be, are going to help this situation because if she already is a crappy mom, this will add to her low self-image. Judging anyone doesn't help them. Only compassion does. He let her have it, which I'm sure was just an anger release on his part, but if he really wants change, he'll have to change his tune and try to help in a different way.

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Are mothers never allowed to leave their house?

Her former boyfriend molester her two children in 2003 and she is being blamed for that. Why is she being blamed for that? If we ALL knew who a child molester was at first glance they would all be locked away.

Unless this woman was right there allowing child molestation, then HOW is she being blamed for these mens behavior?[/b]
Mothers are allowed to leave their house, if they have taken care of their responsiblities.



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If he had forced sexual relations with her why would anyone (in their right mind) leave their children with someone like that? She should have never left them with him after what he did to her. She was probably so emotional (in the video) because the judge humiliated her (and rightfully so) in the courtroom. Hopefully DCFS will be keeping tabs on mommy dearest and her next boyfriend. And if the only person you (general you) can get to watch your kids is a creep who abuses people, then no, you (general you) shouldn't be going out to the bar or wherever. As parents, it is our job to protect our children and she failed at that miserably.[/b]
She doesn't have the tools to fix herself, let alone parent. By sleeping around with sex addicts/child molesters, doesn't that say a lot about her state of being not being very healthy? Instead of shooting up, she hurts herself with this instead.

It's just bloody sad for everyone.
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June 1st, 2007, 12:57 PM
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Did she know he was going to molest her children though? If mothers knew that something bad was going to happen when they leave, we'd never leave the house.

HOW DID SHE KNOW HE WAS A CHILD MOLESTOR?????

No one has answered me this and I need to know to debate this!!! Was he previously convicted??
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June 1st, 2007, 12:58 PM
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Did she know he was going to molest her children though? If mothers knew that something bad was going to happen when they leave, we'd never leave the house.[/b]
People who have been sexually abused have kids (statically) that will be. There are a lot of demons to cross on that subject and she obviously hasn't. I disagree if she knew something bad was going to happen, she'd stay because she isn't in the frame of mind to see a possible situation like that as set up for it..
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June 1st, 2007, 01:03 PM
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Did she know he was going to molest her children though? If mothers knew that something bad was going to happen when they leave, we'd never leave the house.

HOW DID SHE KNOW HE WAS A CHILD MOLESTOR?????

No one has answered me this and I need to know to debate this!!! Was he previously convicted??[/b]
I've only found the one article. So, I can't debate you on this angle. I'm going to bet that this was not his first offense. Predators don't usually start out sodomizing off the bat, right? He's probably been convicted of being a peeping tom, maybe indecent exposure, child porn, etc. She has 5 kids (I think the video or article said) she needs to wake up, stop making babies with with low lifes and get her life on track.
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June 1st, 2007, 01:04 PM
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I'll be back.
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June 1st, 2007, 01:39 PM
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It's funny how in this thread http://www.justmommies.com/boards/in...owtopic=598397 everyone is crying "learned helplessness". How do we know that this woman isn't trying to get out of this relationship or in such a grip of fear she is terrified to leave? We don't know the whole story.

And this thread here: http://www.justmommies.com/boards/index.ph...5839......where women are saying they will stay with their husbands if they hit them.

How can we place blame on this woman (I do believe she has partial blame, but not to the extent this judge is making it out to be) when ladies here are saying they will stay and no one is screaming down their necks wanting their kids to be taken away.

I see your posts now ( I was busy in the Add Reply) Cece, and all the while I was thinking of you..... **hugs**
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June 1st, 2007, 01:43 PM
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In all senerios, we know:
~ noone has the tools to help themselves
~ noone is going to get help, they have to help themselves
~ noone will take away these kids
~ the system isn't setup to really help people, but it's trying

The truth is deep down, I do wish we'd take kids away so the parents could help themselves get better. It's just a fantasy I have though. I know that won't happen in my lifetime, if ever.
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June 1st, 2007, 01:44 PM
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Hmm.... I don't think what the mother did was right (leaving her children with her boyfriend), unless she didn't know about him being a child molester. Does anyone know if she knew prior to this incident? Just wondering...

I don't personally think that the judge should have come down hard on a woman who seems to have been abused herself (why else would she let men like this into her life?)... she needs counseling, not a stern word.
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June 1st, 2007, 01:45 PM
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I think that judge's outburts was absolutely uncalled for. And I think if a judge couldn't control his emotions in a productive way, then perhaps his ability to perform his job should be questioned.

What I got from that video was that there is no sympathy in today's soceity for a RAPED mother, who's dealing with the emotional stuff from that ordeal - is now dealing with the guilt, anger, and emotional stuff from her CHILDREN being RAPED. Very, very sad.
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