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February 15th, 2007, 05:59 PM
Rina42308's Avatar Mega Super Mommy
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Warning this post will be long but I wanted to share with you all since you have been such a great support for me through this crazy last cycle .

Ok so I went to see the RE today. I will try and give you the reader's digest version because I spent about 45 min with him! Which is so unheard of with these kind of Dr's but the NP game me that slot right before lunch for this reason and really my Dr is such a doll i don't think he'd ever tell me he was out of time. So he walks in and says "OMG I feel like we're walking in this revolving door and not getting anywhere!" DH says "tell us about it!" So the Dr says "you had an excellent sperm sample and great follicles, I don't know why it didn't happen" So DH asks him to explain the big jump in sperm count...Dr shrugs his shoulders and is like "I don't know...you guys must want answers for all of this but I just don't know" So I ask him if we have tested/looked at everything there is to look for in regards to problems. he says no because I wasn't having difficulty gettting pg before but now that I am (it's been 6 months) he says " I think it's smart to do a few more tests" so I ask him about my FSH levels (as I pull out a list of things to discuss)...he laughs and says to DH "really you guys don't nee me when you have her doing all this work" He was kinda chucking at my list of questions/demands. then he said "tell me what you have on your list and I will do it" So I tell him i think my FSH definitly needs to be checked. he agrees. he goes on to say if I was 38 and walked in his door he would automatically do it and being that I'm 31, started seeing him at 28, he doesn't anticipate a problem but we should check to be sure. Then I asked about the HSG (I have only had a sonohystogram and a nysteroscopy). he says there is a small risk of infection doing an HSG and explains that. i told him i read that only an HSG shows him the tubes and he said this was true...he explained he didn't have concerns w/my tubes before because obviously eggs were getting through but again since we seem to be up against something now he thinks taking a look is in order. he also said that the rates of pg increase with an HSG so that may help us out too. I asked if the endometriosis could be back and causing blockages(he cleaned out endometriosis when he removed my septum the 1st surgery)...he said my endometriosis was a stage "1" and it doesn't grow back as quickly at a 1 then say a stage "3-4" so he says in a year a half he wouldn't expect to see much growth (this is the amount of time it's been since he cleaned it out with laprascopy surgery). Then I asked him about accupuncture...he basically did this long dissertation about how western medicine isn't so much in line with eastern medicine and how American pharmacutecal compaines are what fund the big research projects and they don't do reasearch on accupunture because they don't make money off it...so he said the research on accupuncture is "Soft" meaning not a whole lot of research subjects BUT with that said, says, "I work with a wonderful accupuncturist and together we have gotten some really great results." He said that whether it's the accupuncture itself or simply the perseverence one gains from seeing her, he is not sure, but he does have better results when his patients see her. Next we talked about the clomid. he actually said he personally hates clomid. he said he feels irresponsible giving it to me because of the side effects but that it's the cheapest, usually quickest result pill out there which is why it's used so much. he said it can cause problems with the uterus which I do not need being that I have had multiple surgeries on my uterus. he went on to say he much prefers the injectable med (forget the name) but that it is more expensive and placing you at a higher risk of twins...then he says "But we like twins right? We can have those?" (I love how he says we like they're his babies too and I said yes twins would be just fine. So he says "Ok do you want to let me do what I want to do?" and I said "tell me what that is " (control freak here) so he says "I'd like to do the FSH check, the HSG, and do another sperm analysis on your husband to make sure with this new count that jump we are still working with good motility and morphology...I would like you to see the accupuncturist in the meantime...get a little more grounded and centered (I told him I was completely emotionally unstable and depressed earlier in the conversation) and he said I would like to get all the diagnostics in, so take a month off of TTC, and then we go ahead next month if everything looks good with the injectable medication and timed intercourse". He said he didn't think IUI was so much necessary. Then he said "If you are not pg in 3 months let's reconvene and talk about IVF" He said he'd do IVF for me tomorrow if I wanted it but he didn't think we needed to pull out that big of a gun just yet...however he understands my desire NOW which is why he'd do it for me. I told him for IVF I'd have to go to my parents for the $$, we just don't have that and I'm sure they'd give it to me but I would feel awful if we spent all that money and I still didn't get pg so i would like to see if we could get a baby a little more cost effectively. he said he totally agreed and understood.

At first I thought if I was told to take time off I'd freak but I actually feel a little relieved. I have decided this month I will not chart/temp, nothing. We won't prevent but I'm not gonna be crazy trying to have sex on O day...that will be for next month. I think my response is indicative of me needing a break.

I called the accupuncturist but she isn't in on Thursdays so I left a msg. I hope she's not too costly. Regardless I'll do it.

Oh and i asked him about stress and if that plays a part..he said he believes so but that it's a vicious cycle, his words" You wouldn't be stressed if you weren't trying to have a baby right...it is so hard and it is so unfair. i do not blame you one bit for feeling like you do" So he and I are also hoping the new accupunture will work in helping the stress part as well.

he also talked about this immunity problem that can sometimes develop for women...that they get pg, and m/c, pg and m/c and that their antibodies actually begin to attack when an egg gets fertilized...much like when you get a vaccination...usually with a vaccination you get a little sick because it's a new thing being introduced to your system but then the next time you're exposed you don't get sick because your antibodies attack it...he said this is VERY rare and he isn't saying this is what's happening with me but he's throwing it out there so we are of aware of this ...he said their is no treatment for this but IVF usually can get past that. I sure hope that is not my problem .

Ok I think that's it. if you read this far I owe you a coffee Thanks for listening. So Lucygirl- I'm out with you this month...lets have a margarita and chill...I haven't had a drink in like 4 months w/this TTC crap! LOL!
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February 15th, 2007, 06:26 PM
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Wow sounds like you've got all your bases covered! Your RE sounds like a great doctor, you can tell he really cares not just out for the money. I hope you get some answers soon on why you havent been able to get preg lately. Best of Luck.

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February 15th, 2007, 06:36 PM
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Yeah for You !!! I'm SO jealous of your doctor, it sounds like you all have a great relationship!! I called around today for a new doctor but it seems that the group of doctors I am with are by far the best in my area.. so I will give them this month to redeem themselves

I'm so proud of you for going in and telling your doctor what you wanted done, I feel allot of times they never try to figure out why we can't get pregnant and just give us clomid.. which I'm now convinced that clomid is tic tacs with hot flashes and mood swings

I had an HSG done a few months ago, didnt hurt a bit, and I felt good knowing my tubes werent blocked. and it felt like I got "cleaned" out too..

I have an appointment with the accupuncturist on Feb 28th too!!

wow, if we lived on the same side of the country I'd drive myself with my Margarita maker in tow to your house.. and live this month up cause I like you have put drinking on hold for the past couple of months.

it's like we're on the same path, mine with a cyst though.. but it's good to have you sitting the bench with me (although I dont wish this on us, a Big mofo P wouldve sufficed!!!)

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February 15th, 2007, 06:44 PM
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I'll take a tall mocha latte.. with whipped cream... YUMMY!

anyhow it sounds like your doc is gonna get right on with things and i am sure you'll be getting your answers and BFP very soon...! HUgs hun keep, keeping on......
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February 15th, 2007, 07:52 PM
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Lucy I know what you mean it does feel nice to have a buddy on the bench...let's make the best of this month what do you say???!!!

LOL at clomid is tic tacs with hot flashes and mood swings! So true!

Thanks all for reading that long ol' post...

Starry- those are yummy! Next time you're in LA hit me up
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February 15th, 2007, 08:18 PM
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Norina... I'm so glad you've got a nice solid plan. I love plans!

I now the value of having a really good doctor that you can get along with so well - I have a few of those myself, my RE included and it's so precious.

Enjoy your month off of TTC as much as you can - I'm sure your body could use the break.

I'm so happy that you had such a good appointment!

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February 16th, 2007, 10:13 AM
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Norina, i am so happy for you!

That appt sounds like it went great and your RE sounds FANTASTIC.
I think that makes all the difference when going through fertility treatments.

Our RE is great too and also said 'twins are great' he said triplets are not though
and i was like 'erm that's good cos i don't think triplets are that great either
Honestly though i would be delighted with 3 babies but the risk is so high thats what
i don't like.

I wish you all the luck and hope that the IUI works and it does not have to come to IVF

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February 16th, 2007, 11:48 AM
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That is really great!! I love doctors that are like that!

Its great that you have a plan and hopefully you will get that BFP soon!

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