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October 16th, 2004, 03:20 AM
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See I think that was low of him to go there

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October 16th, 2004, 10:26 AM
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Fact-Mary Cheney is an out lesbian who accepts money to work for the campaign. She is a public figure. Kerry's comments were not an attack or slur...he merely stated fact.

I think it's sad the they are resorting to this to try to stir crap up. Maybe they are scared the polls have tightened.
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October 20th, 2004, 04:41 PM
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She is NOT a public figure. When have you ever seen her on stage or giving a speech for her father? never. Accepting money from a campaign does not make you a public figure. Coming out doesn't mean announcing it to millions and millions of people in a presidential debate. But it doesn't matter. Families have always been off limits. If Bush had made a comment about Kerry's daughters knowing what it was like to have a mother who had had severe depression or mental problems or to have parents who were divorced, Bush might as well be packing his bags and heading home. And they are much more public than Mary Cheney has been. It was a mistake, and he should have followed the advice given him by one of his aides and apologized immediately. Instead his surrogate claimed she was fair game and that caused more of an uproar. When the democrats in spin alley during the debate winced at the remark and gasped, you know it was it mistake. It wasn't just republicans that were outraged, in a recent poll 40% of democrats were as well. he will probably pay for it by a few votes he had before the comment who thought it was sleazy.
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October 20th, 2004, 05:48 PM
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Have the Republicans gone mad? At the vice presidential debate, Edwards made some oleaginous comment about Cheney’s lesbian daughter, and Cheney thanked him. I repeat: Cheney thanked him. At the third president debate a week or so later, Kerry, following Edwards’s lead, and perhaps thinking that he also would be thanked for it, made a similar oleaginous comment about Cheney’s lesbian daughter, and the roof falls in on his head! Mrs. Cheney calls him a bad man, Cheney himself says he’s “angry,” and conservative bloggers are calling it the worst cheap shot since cheap shots began.

What the heck is going on here? Mary Cheney’s lesbianism has been national knowledge since the vice presidential debate in the 2000 election four years ago. The Cheneys themselves have spoken about, or at least referred to, their daughter’s lesbianism in public, on television. Her lesbianism has often been mentioned as a possible reason for Cheney’s support for homosexual marriage. And finally, Mary Cheney is not simply a lesbian but a professional lesbian, working as a spokesman for homosexual issues for Coors Brewing Company and the Republican National Committee.

Furthermore, when we remember Cheney’s own support for homosexual marriage (in which he openly broke with the president on the issue) and his treasonous refusal to defend supporters of the FMA (who include the president!) from Edwards’s smear, I must say that Kerry’s explanations of the Mary Cheney comment sound a lot more reasonable and fair to me than anything the frenzied Republicans are saying at the moment. Kerry gave an interview to the Des Moines Register:

“I said it in a very respectful way about their love for their daughter,” the Massachusetts senator said during a meeting with Des Moines Register reporters and editors before a campaign rally at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. “I’m surprised by the reaction. I was saying it in a way that embraced the love of their daughter.”
Kerry said he mentioned the Cheneys to underscore division between the vice president and Bush on the question of gay marriage.

“All I was trying do is point out that it—let their daughter speak. Was it a choice, or was she born the way she was. That was the question. I was being respectful, purely respectful,” Kerry said.

“I was trying to raise the point that they’ve embraced their daughter and that they don’t raise questions and that Dick Cheney himself is against a constitutional amendment (banning gay marriage), a reflection of love and I think recognition of who their daughter is.”

And why wasn't she on stage??? Fear of losing conservative Christian votes? Shame?? And yes, by accepting money to be a campaign head you do make yourself a public figure.....were you this outraged when Rush Limbaugh implied that Chelsea Clinton was the "White House Dog"?
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October 20th, 2004, 06:26 PM
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i agree. it was a low blow. totally inappropriate.

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