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silver11princess November 10th, 2009 07:31 PM

Complete Crappiness... (preg. mentioned)
So Mady went from measuring in the 50% to now only 22%. She is 5 days behind. She was 3 days ahead. In 3 weeks she went from 3lbs 9ozs to 4lbs 5ozs. She didn't even gain a full pound. All I can do is cry. I am still gaining weight, so it is not that. And I get measured by the same tech at every appt. and even our perinatologist came in and remeasured her and he got the same thing. He says because my NST are okay that it is no big deal. But tell that to my mind that is screaming at me that we are only a week away from when I lost Robert. I just can't do this anymore. I can't deliver another dead baby but I feel like they won't do anything until it is too late. The best he would do is up my NST's to 3x a week and I go back for another growth ultrasound in 10 days. He wouldn't even let it be a week. To me, if she hasn't gained anything in a week, it would be a huge red flag, but apparently they don't feel that way. This is killing me. My birthday is tomorrow and I just don't care about anything. Thank you for listening to me vent. I feel terrible. I just want to take apart the nursery and not look at it. I don't know what to do.

NutMeg76 November 10th, 2009 08:37 PM

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laurakatee November 10th, 2009 08:45 PM

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oh god, I can only imagine how scared you are. the time between visits to makes sure all is okay must be unbearably excruciating. I will be thinking of you. Is there a point where they would just go ahead and take the baby (via c/s) knowing she is a healthy weight and all, just to be on the safe side?

huge HUGS, please come talk to us anytime.

LaLaLa1 November 10th, 2009 11:06 PM

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oh hun, I'm so sorry you're dealing with this on top of all your extra stress :( Do they have any reason why she hasn't gained as much weight in the last 3 weeks?

Please KUP. Many :dothug: You and Mady will be in my thoughts.

lex1078 November 11th, 2009 07:59 AM

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If you are really concerned, you should get a second opinion. It sounds concerning to me and after what I went through with my girls, I now know to not take any Dr.'s words as final advice. Either you need to fight with them to get more answers, or just go to another peri. He really shouldn't say that because your NST's are ok, that she is ok.. I believe he should have a better answer.

Please KUP on how everything is going. :dothug:

grlpisces November 11th, 2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by laurakatee (Post 17938370)
oh god, I can only imagine how scared you are. the time between visits to makes sure all is okay must be unbearably excruciating.

This is absolutely true. I am going to see my perinatologist twice a week where they do BPPs because I have GD and am on insulin. The nights before my appts., sleep is fitful, I wake up with headaches, I get extremely nervous that something is wrong ... even though, every appointment, the cord blood flow, the heart beat, and the amniotic fluid are right on target.

I know the stress you are feeling, hon. You and Mady are in my thoughts as well. And I too am curious --- did they mention why she's not gained so much weight? Or did they at least give you an average range of what is a normal weight gain for this gestation period?


silver11princess November 11th, 2009 08:52 AM

Re: Complete Crappiness... (preg. mentioned)
They really didn't give me any reasons as to why outside of the fact that every baby gains weight at a different rate. They said that because the NST tests are fine, her Umbilical dopplers are okay, and her amniotic fluid looks good, that they don't think the weight gain is a problem. He said that normally, a baby in distress shows the signs through low amniotic fluid. It just makes me super mad because to me, a drop-off in percentile should be a clear sign of a problem, regardless of the other indicators. Maybe I am just too paranoid, but we don't really know what happened with Robert. They assumed it was an umbilical cord accident, but there was no specific findings. And I only had 2 ultrasounds with him and they were before 24 weeks, so we don't know what happened in the last 10 weeks. I just hate that they are not making a big deal out of what I feel is something huge. Did any of you girls have a point where your baby measured behind? Either living or stillborn?

Aeterna November 11th, 2009 09:37 AM

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I know they don't start to worry about baby's weight until it's at or below the 10th percentile, which would indicate IUGR. Baby's do gain weight at their own pace. They don't start to really pick up weight until 32 weeks. On average they gain 8 oz a week between 32-38 weeks and then it tapers off some. That's just average, though. Some gain more and some gain less.

Is there a way you can see someone else to ease your fears? It must be stressful. (((hugs))) Are you being induced later?

Brittanie November 11th, 2009 10:13 AM

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I'm sorry honey!! :dothug: :dothug:

The others have said some wonderful things, I hope you get some sort of comfort and peace honey!

BakingMommy November 11th, 2009 02:51 PM

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Um yeah Vera measures behind growth wise but not really weight-wise (growth rate of her head and legs is weeks behind what it should be) and I keep getting that she's active and the NSTs are good, etc. all the time too. Stupid doctors. :mad:

It would be one thing if baby had always been growing that way but when the baby's growth slows like Vera's and yours to me that is a huge caution sign. At 32 weeks Vera measured perfectly so she was all caught up. At 36 weeks she was 2 and 3 weeks behind again. But apparently that's not such a big deal to them. Ugh.

Delekatala November 12th, 2009 03:26 AM

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Obviously I dealt with a baby being behind. Lillian was severe iugr, her growth slowed down at 20ish weeks, and by 25 weeks had stopped altogether. But we knew the problem, it showed in her dopplers, her cord was bad.

Once she started having bad nst I was admitted to the hospital and was there for a month before they finally did a c-section at 29 weeks. Now while I was admitted, they did nst 3 times a day, and a BPP (NST with a detailed ultrasound) once a day and a doppler every other day, growth ultrasound once a week. They were trying to buy the babies as much time as they could, but keeping a really close eye so that once it got bad, they could get them out right away. I was told by one of the high risk doctors that if it wasn't twins, and they weren't also weighing out the needs of the healthy baby they would have delivered her at 26 weeks when she started failing the NST.

The day they delivered she had failed her NST as usual, but she also failed her BPPS, she normally would fail the nst part of the bpp but pass the other 4 parts. They did a doppler a day early and it showed stopped cord flow, which means like the cord would work for a second then stop working for a second, so she was getting nutrition and oxygen half the time. They delivered a couple hours later.

And for those who don't know, Genevive was 3lb 1 oz, and Lillian was 1lb 13oz. And of course the one we all worried about was fine, and Genevive passed away at 16 days old from an unexpected disease she got called NEC

Hope this was helpful, I tried to lay out what was happening at what time and what the drs were doing about it. All they can do is monitor and decide when the risk to the baby is great enough to deliver. I can tell you this, They told me that they would do a growth ultrasound weekly for Lillian, just to be safe and since I was already there for the doppler, but to monitor growth they have to compare for every two weeks. Normally they will only do a growth ultrasound two weeks apart, because they can't make an accurate determination if a baby is growing well by one week apart ultrasounds it is to close of a time and the baby doesn't grow enough in a week. So based on that the ten days between growth ultrasounds sounds like they are in fact being cautious, and I hope that is comforting to you.

in my case they would do it weekly, but they would compare it to the one that was two weeks prior, not the one the week before, LOL. hope that makes sense. Boy that was a hectic time.

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